Behavior around fursuiters

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Location: Orlando, FL

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While this is information many fursuiters know...those without a suit may be somewhat oblivous to the obvious. So I thought I'd put together a few items that will make many of our suiter friends happier to be around you.

1. Be careful around suiters, they have limited visibility! Most fursuiters cannot turn their costume heads. In most cases, suiters are looking through "tunnel vision" eyes that only let them see a range of about 10% of what you can see. If you start running up to a fursuiter from the back or the side...they may not have ANY idea you are there, and you can potentially hurt them badly. Always try to approach a fursuiter from the front, and be polite. Remember...they're still a person inside and can react the same way that anyone else does if you startle them or do something they don't want or like.

2. Fursuiters can overheat easily! These costumes typically enclose the body and the head. This traps all their body heat and usually causes profuse sweating. (The temperature inside the head of a fursuit can easily reach 110 degrees in a matter of minutes! So suiters need water and cooling facilities frequently. If you see a suiter and they motion that they need to go...DON'T STOP THEM. They could be really uncomfortable or badly in need of water.

3. Elevator ettiquette - Anthrocon respects a particular form of elevator etiquette when it comes to fursuiters. They will noramlly be pushed to the front of an elevator line immediately. Please respect this and if you see a fursuiter waiting to get into an elevator, allow them to move to the front of the line. The Dorsai will be facilitating this..please don't argue with them on this point.

4. Respect the work and money put into these costumes! Some individuals have spent many thousands of dollars on their fursuits. Others have constructed their fursuits over the span of years. Some suits may have special technical components or animatronics in them. Whatever the case is, a fursuit is the private property of the owner. Don't hit, strike, touch, or roughouse with a suit unless the owner has given you specific permission to do so. If they say stop..the really mean stop!

5. On the subject of touching fursuits...many people think that "scritching" a suit is a nice thing to do. PLEASE DO NOT DO THIS UNLESS THE OWNER HAS TOLD YOU IT'S OK! Here's why: Many suits are now being constructed with more expensive and finer furs. If you "scritch" a suit, it may feel nice to you, but the owner won't feel the same thing. The worse part is, scritching or scratching a suit can RUIN the fur. It can get matted, pulled out, knotted, or otherwise damaged. Petting the fur of a suit is usually fine, so long as you've been given permission to do so. And if you are going to touch a fursuit..for goodness' sake...make certain your hands are CLEAN! Lightly colored fur will show any mark or blemish.

6. Fianlly, remember that not all suiters are the same. Some have higher staminas than others. Some are very shy while others are outgoing. Some may give hugs or other attention freely to anyone, while others may only reserve that for people that they know. Don't be offended if a suiter doesn't respond to you the way you want them to.

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Giza's picture
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You may want to post this in the LJ community as well. That gets lots of readership.

 
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I made the big mistake of addressing a fursuiter as a fursuiter in front of the kids. Aerak had politely corrected me. In their suited form, in front of an audience, they are "real," for all intents and purposes and for the sake of their performance.

Don't make the same mistake I did. I got fwapped for it. X_X

kellyhanson140's picture

Thanks for posting this.. I myself am a fursuiter and will be at AC this year with 2 partials.. One of which has a rather long tail. This will be my first time suiting at a convention and it will be interesting..

Kaze Lionpawz's picture
"The mind is a dangerous place, I try to stay out of it."

Location: Philadelphia, PA, USA, Earth, Milky Way,

Well Kelly and I will be wondering around together, I guess we'll take turns watching out for each other while we're in suit. Kinda like the blind leading the blind, lol.

-Rawr

Simba B's picture
Location: Liverpool, New York

Isn't another etiquette point that, in general, you're not supposed to talk to fursuiters?

SilverMcHowl's picture
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I always thought that was odd, as I would imagine an anthro being able to talk...

But there is indeed a bit more magic and fun if they don't speak and use other means to communicate.

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The problem with speaking in costume is it can be difficult. Mouth movement and breathing are both restricted.

K.P.'s picture
"Anthrocon Programming Director"

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Actually...that depends on the suiter and their suit. Some fursuits have mobile jaws and allow the ability to speak. Some fursuits follow the old mascot type rules about not speaking in costume.

KP

DarkWulf's picture

YEah, Mine has the Movable Jaw on it, and all i really do is let out an Arf or two at times, other than that I try to keep quiet unless i need to tell someone I know something, and even then i keep it to a whisper

Sylverwolfe - Deleted's picture

I speak in both of my suits and they do not have moving jaws. I don't think you are not supposed to talk to them. They can be spoken to however those who are purists of the unwritten "Don't talk while wearing a fursuit" rule are going to incoherently growl or play charades with you.

Sylverwolfe
The Heavy Metal werewolf

Bang your head!!! Metal Health will drive you mad!

Exkhaniber's picture

Hey, playing charades with the suiters is fun!

-There is no truth

firehopper's picture
Location: Kutztown, PA

actually, as far as I know, its fursuiters don't talk, you can ask questions, some may choose to answer with guestures

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Isn't another etiquette point that, in general, you're not supposed to talk to fursuiters?

Some fursuiters will be more than happy to talk to you... they'll just sound kind of muffled. lol

Mwuricon D Malamute's picture
Location: York, PA

Perhaps that should be, Big Bad Wolf's, next project. Try to develop a fur suit voice box so that a suiter could talk normally, or perhaps add a voice changing quality so a suiter could have a more animalistic voice.

Sylverwolfe - Deleted's picture

EXCELLENT POINTS!!!

THANK YOU FOR WRITING THEM!!!

While getting waylaid by a gaggle of fursuit-friendly-suiter-hug-seeking-furries is fun, sadly it is forgotten that fursuiters only have a finite amount of time until they need to take the head off to breathe for a few minutes and get some water. Getting into a scritch/hug frenzy can get hot and demanding if many are waiting to have their turn.

I appreciate the post.

Sylverwolfe
The Heavy Metal werewolf

Bang your head!!! Metal Health will drive you mad!

K.P.'s picture
"Anthrocon Programming Director"

Location: Orlando, FL

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If that's your suit in your icon..I have to say I think it's adorable Smiling

Hope to see you at the fursuit meet and greet Friday afternoon. It should be a hoot!

KP

Sylverwolfe - Deleted's picture

Both suits in the Icon are mine. I can only bring one. The Wolf on the left will have to be left home. The Husky on the right will be the suit I will show up in. Thank you for the compliment. I was quite proud of the suit when I commissioned it with Arend Studios a year ago.

This is the first I have heard about the Fursuit meet and Greet. thank you for the heads up.

I have not had a lot of time lately. I am preparing to take the time off at work so I have not had a chance to read the schedule of events. I figured I would get there, see the Opening Ceremony and then find a program with all the stuff going on.

What time is that event?
See you there!

Sylverwolfe
The Heavy Metal werewolf

Bang your head!!! Metal Health will drive you mad!

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This is the first I have heard about the Fursuit meet and Greet. thank you for the heads up.

'Ats-a why we post the schedule!

BlackJack's picture
Location: NYC

http://www.anthrocon.org/schedule

The curious fellow can download the PDFs there, if he was having trouble finding it.
He DOES have access to a PDF reader, I presume...

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Ah, our presumption may not be valid, though.

We are *THIS CLOSE* to having a nice HTML-based grid that people can refer to without having to invoke an Adobe program.

We are ***THIS CLOSE***. Right...Giza...KP...?

Sylverwolfe - Deleted's picture

I would have loved to actually. I have been bringing my work home here lately so I can take the vacation time off of work. I have been leaving the lab rather late here for the last week and half too.

To Be entirely honest: I DO have Adobe, HOWEVER I was simply unaware that the schedule was available. I can not get on here and post every single day really. HECK! I have scarcely had time to tend the furry message boards I own and Co-Admin.

To UncleKage:
I think it would be really swell to have that on the list somewhere so one does not have to dilly-dally around with trying to load Adobe and then deal with the gazillion updates that program always wants to perform!

One Good thing though:
I decided to take off all next week and some time off the week after, with Anthrocon in the middle so now I am officially on vacation! And thanks to all you guys telling me about it I will find it Load it and find out what is going on there.

Sylverwolfe
The Heavy Metal werewolf

Bang your head!!! Metal Health will drive you mad!

Mwuricon D Malamute's picture
Location: York, PA

AWWW Man!! They put the fursuit dodgeball at the same time as the Kage Story hour.

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Location: Erie, PA

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AWWW Man!! They put the fursuit dodgeball at the same time as the Kage Story hour.

And during the Charity Auction/Funday Pawpet show Sad

I'm not that familiar with dodgeball, but given the limited mobility/visibility of suits, just how will that work? And can anybody keep that up for the full 1.5 hours, or do the participants change often enough that nobody will be doing it for that long?

Ron

Mwuricon D Malamute's picture
Location: York, PA

It has always been my stance that "Nothing" should ever run at the same time as the Kage story hour, and 2's show. It would also be prefered if nothing ran at the same time as major GOH appearences. I understand that sometimes you just can't help it, but if the schedule is too crouded you may need to start cutting content. That was my only problem last year, too much content, I knew I couldn't see it all, but I tried so hard that I didn't take the time to enjoy things to the fullest. This year looks much better, and there are only a few hard choices to make. So a big paws up to K.P.

BlackJack's picture
Location: NYC

No matter what, there will always be one of two problems:
1) too many things to attend them all
2) too few things to hold your interest

If they slashed the schedule down, there's no guarantee
you'd like most of what's left.

So, instead, they offer more choices. The drawbacks, are,
obviously, you have some hard choices to make, and event
organizers have smaller draws due to people at competing
events at the same time. (That's MY headache.)

Despite the frustrations on both ends, though, cutting
content doesn't seem to be an option that anyone REALLY
wants. How do you know the stuff you really want to
attend won't be the first thing cut?

To date, I have been to very few conventions of ANY type
where you have a reasonable chance of attending everything
you WANT to attend. (Unless very little at the convention
interests you.) That's the nature of the beast, and the
variety that results in this is one of the strengths of any
GOOD convention.

K.P.'s picture
"Anthrocon Programming Director"

Location: Orlando, FL

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I try..and thanks for the message of appreciation.

Just to let ya know..I do try very hard to make certain that as few things as possible conflict with major events. In the case of Kage and Dodgeball Match #2, that was put there specifically as an alternative for some folks who didn't want to attend the Story Hour. I received a message last year from some fursuiters asking for something to do at that time, becasue the Story Hour just wasn't their thing.

It's kind of a catch-22 really, becasue some will fuss that something is there, and others will fuss because there's nothing else there.

The best we can do is offer a variety of activities that fall in many people's interest ranges. I'd rather take the heat for there being far too much to do, than to have people complaining that they are bored. Smiling

KP

mrianti's picture

Fursuits ? at AC ? wow Eye-wink

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