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theonethatbites's picture
"WARNING: MAY CONTAIN RABBIES"

Location: the squiggle in your eye

is it just me or do furs get a lot of stick when it comes too eople who don't understand?

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GreyFoxFanatic's picture
"Wednesday Addams is my Inner Child."

Location: Kansas, USA

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Totally...That's the reason I'm really careful about revealing my furry side to co-workers and people in the field I'm trying to educate myself into (Psychology).

Friends I tell prettymuch up front--just to get it out in the open and out of the way.

Dragoneer's picture
Location: Earth

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It's always good to keep your personal and professional life separate, especially given your job. Furries can be open individuals, and sometimes sharing too much with co-workers may just share too much about personal interests that may make the work life a tad uneasy.

EaglesFlight's picture
"Shame on me if you must read this to know that I am a Christian."

Location: Walker, LA

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I don't know where you live, but for me it's not a problem. I wear my ears pretty much everywhere except work. Although I will wear them there next week (Oct. 31).

Those in this area, South Louisiana, that I have talked to have found it interesting or weird, but none have reacted bad, yet. I even voted this past Friday wearing them.

theonethatbites's picture
"WARNING: MAY CONTAIN RABBIES"

Location: the squiggle in your eye

well i live in england and my class mates find me werid and they complain at for being a furry or is it my aspergers?

naldru's picture
"I fear that financial problems are preventing me from attending this year. Maybe next year."

Location: Philadelphia, PA (USA)

When I described a furry convention to my father, his precise statement was "At least it isn't a VFW convention". (Veterans of Foreign Wars) My father fought in World War II and knew what went on at the VFW conventions. (Besides general rowdiness, they apparrently also had a habit of leaving automobiles on the elevated train tracks.) Of course since I was almost fifty years old at the time, I believe that he trusted my maturity.

I've been to several Anthrocons, and frankly I've seen far worse behavior at many science fiction conventions. Of course, it may be like Jimmy Stewart's response to reporters when he was told that wild parties with drugs were taking place just down the road: "I guess that's why I was never invited to the parties".

Several years ago, there was an episode of the television show The Streets of San Francisco where Arnold Schwarzeneiger was the guest star and played a body-builder who was also a sexual predator. I would really love to get a copy of that tape to show to people who mention the CSI episode. When I heard that the CSI episode had people making sex while in fur suits, I broke out laughing. It's hard enough walking in the suits without collapsing from the heat.

I go to Anthrocon because it's a friendly group of people and relaxing to go to. I personally find the people at Anthrocon saner and more normal than the people I deal with at work.

I would be seriously considering the furry party in Ohio over the weekend but my wife is returning from St. Louis and would be rather upset if I wasn't there to pick her up at the airport.

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"Vulpine fortunes are precarious; folk either want to build monuments to us, or hang us."

Location: Roseville, CA, USA

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At least it isn't a VFW convention". (Veterans of Foreign Wars) My father fought in World War II and knew what went on at the VFW conventions. (Besides general rowdiness, they apparrently also had a habit of leaving automobiles on the elevated train tracks.) Of course since I was almost fifty years old at the time, I believe that he trusted my maturity.

Funny, that - now, at AL (American Legion) conventions, they have a habit of leaving trains on city streets! And a city hosting a statewide or national American Legion convention can expect to see liquor sales grow three- or four-fold for the week that they terror...er, "visit" town.

But back to the point - veterans' groups, and service organisations such as the Masons or Shriners or Lions Clubs, and fraternal groups such as the Elks and Eagles and Moose, are made up of HUGE numbers of otherwise mundane and mainstream middleclass people, the "salt of the earth" types; EVERYBODY knows SOMEBODY who is a Mason or an Elk or a Veteran, and they aren't individually judged as whatever they are associated with, they are judged by their day-to-day role in community life, and that judgement carries through and covers whatever other extracivil affairs that they are associated with.

But take an interest that ISN'T common, that ISN'T shared with a broad cross-section of society, where people are not exposed to it as a matter-of-fact, oh-by-the-way, I am a fan of Anthropomorphic "Furry" Arts and attend gatherings of like-minded, middle-class people like myself and yourself, and the ONLY exposure is what others choose to portray for some video feature to fill out the half-hour in the local evening news, right after the sports score round-up, and we are the strange, the unknown, the unfamiliar. People after all know what "Star Fleet" is, what "Klingons" are, they are fictional creations from a popular television series. Folks who dress up as Storm Troopers from STARWARS or as Klingons are looked upon as HARMLESS curiosities - not quite as respectable as the old men in the blue or red service caps, but still, not totally unknown quantities, and certainly not threatening in any real sense.

Nine times out of ten, Furry Fans don't even mention the word "fan", they just identify themselves as "We're Furries!", and that begs an explanation as to what a "Furry" IS - and since you have already stated that YOU are a "Furry", it must be something very internal and fundamentally "core" to you, like being a Christian or Jew or Buddhist or Moslem or AmWay salesman or Christian Scientist...

...Except that people have heard of all those things, and regardless of their opinions on each of them, they are at least semi-familar concepts.

So there you have it - "Furries" are an unknown, undefined concept - and as long as we allow others to define us, or continue to define outselves in confusing and ambiguous and even nebulous ways, we will continue to be perceived and treated the way that we are now.

Alondro's picture
"Lions are lazy, very lazy. However, never tell one that to its face, lest you be sliced like bacon."

Location: NJ

I'm a furry, plus my ancestors on my dad's side were Masons.

Plus we're French.

Three strikes... :<

Wait! I've got some Dutch too!

*not helping...* Sticking out tongue

Raider's picture
"Think positive thoughts and positive things WILL happen!"

Location: Rochester,NY,United States

Smiling When I explained to my friends last month that I was a furry, they took it pretty well(surprisingly). Then when I told my brother and his wife(who are both christians) that I was a furry and explained to them what a furry was, they took it really good. Most people I told at my workplace had no idea what a furry is so I had to keep repeating myself. Furries are not big where I am up here in Rochester, NY. Everyone I told seems to take it very good and back me up for being a furry. I guess I am one of the lucky ones. Raider.

The Sonic God's picture
"What is this "logic" you speak of?"

Location: New Brighton, MN, USA

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Just to throw a monkey wrench here...

Could Furries and Macintosh computers be compared to each other?

Why don't more people like Macintoshes? Is it that because they're misunderstood, or that they don't work like the way you want them to work?

Same idea for Furries? Yes or No.

Dragoneer's picture
Location: Earth

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Well, Macs are all about being artistic, and the same certainly holds true well enough for the fandom. Smiling

theonethatbites's picture
"WARNING: MAY CONTAIN RABBIES"

Location: the squiggle in your eye

but dont you think apple have gone to far?

Kaarlo the roadie's picture
"Arctic fox kinda thingamajigger with a punk rock twist"

Location: Finland, beyond civilisation

Dunno, i dont like Mac at all myself (might be 'cause i'm far from being an artist in painting field and music i can create in real life without comps) PC works with me, but i'm SO waiting for the new Amiga OS. I still have my old amiga and use it weekly, even thought about trying to create an internet connection for it, heh

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Gents, let's keep this thread on-topic, shall we?

theonethatbites's picture
"WARNING: MAY CONTAIN RABBIES"

Location: the squiggle in your eye

okay then a survay... how meny peeps here get aggro about being a fur?

Hinie's picture
"Shoes"

Location: Fredericksburg, Virginia

Yo, 1 right here Urrgh or Doh

Joltmar's picture
"I am a lolipop!"

Location: Somewhere over the rainbow in a land far far away

Never really had any yet "but" I did come out to the world on youtube that I'm bi and a furry.. and alot of my family and their friends watch my account.. though no one said anything yet.

The Sonic God's picture
"What is this "logic" you speak of?"

Location: New Brighton, MN, USA

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I got shouted at by some random lady driving past me as I was walking back to the Omni hotel back in 2006. She said I had something growing out of my backside, but words more profane to that effect. I was wearing a tail, which most furs do at Anthrocon.

What people don't understand, they fear, and usually what they fear, they hate. And to accentuate that hate, they'll find any given minor inconsistency and make sure that whatever it may be, must be used as the primary label to destroy the very fabric of the situation in question. @_X

In other words: If something is weird to them, they'll do anything that they can to make you feel stupid.

I guess we do get guff from time to time, but for how many more people actually don't mind us or actually like us, I'd say it's worth dealing with the minor problems to get the major praise. Smiling

Hinie's picture
"Shoes"

Location: Fredericksburg, Virginia

Woah O_o Do be careful. BTW, if no one else knows that you are bi, than youtube is DEFINITELY not the place for them to find out, ESPECIALLY your friends. You got yourself in a really sticky situation. Tell your parents before they find out! Trust me, I know from experience. God speed comrade! Sticking out tongue

theonethatbites's picture
"WARNING: MAY CONTAIN RABBIES"

Location: the squiggle in your eye

good point there never 'open up' on youtube every one will look at you with a queer eye

pinkeye's picture
"Try not to scratch :("

Location: New Jerseyland

Meh, when I tell people I think it's fun to dress up in a costume they just go "whatev." When I talk about other people doing it they say it's creepy. I don't know why. Maybe they think people in the costumes are old men trying to get little girls to touch them :B

To answer your question though, most people are pretty cool about it. I've never had to come out like "guys I'm a furry."

I've always wondered why some people get really defensive when people have misconceptions about the fandom. Being part of several under-represented groups in the United States, I've dealt with a lot of stereotypes and prejudices. After a while, you kind of turn into a duck. Water just rolls right off your back, you know?

Now that I think of it, I had one guy give me the middle finger when I was volunteering with a non profit. And a lot of people wouldn't hug me unless they knew I was a girl XD

My biggest fear is someone egging my costume. "HEY! DRY CLEAN ONLY! " Hot head

Alondro's picture
"Lions are lazy, very lazy. However, never tell one that to its face, lest you be sliced like bacon."

Location: NJ

Why hello fellow Jersey person.

I think the reason that people like us don't have many problems is the fact that we're in New Jersey, and New Jersey has Pineys. Next to them, furries seem quaint and harmless!

New Jersey also has Trenton... and Newark... and Jersey City... and Camden...

Furries are the last thing people in NJ have to worry about. Sticking out tongue

DasWulf's picture
"I Got a Clarkbar! nom.nom.nom."

Location: Pittsburgh,PA

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i only tell people i like. i don't just announce it to the world. whats the point? if they find out great for them. mostly my friends think its cool, and when i tell them about the fursuit i'm making, they want me to make them one too. but uh.... yeah. i dunno about all that yet. still trying to figure out my own.
just wanted to say i get no flack.

Kaarlo the roadie's picture
"Arctic fox kinda thingamajigger with a punk rock twist"

Location: Finland, beyond civilisation

Dunno, none of my friends actually know that i'm a furry but... meh? Who cares? It wouldnt really change their disposition towards me, 'cause they are my RL Friends. I dont have any reason to tell them straight that i'm a furry, though i dont have any reason not to. And no, never experienced any aggro myself, the fandom is pretty unknown in Finland, might be that, and i dont hold the "Yiff in hell" /b/ stuff as an offence 'cause i'm a 4chan user maself

Volknochi's picture
Location: Northern VA

I only tell people I feel won't judge me. I've only told one coworker about it, he thought it was cool and wanted to see the link to a random fursuit site. Otherwise, it's not something I'd blurt out just because you don't know how people were perceive you afterwards.

Kitsune fan's picture
"what r u looking at?"

Location: Knoxville TN

Meh people just natrully hate people who are different from them
No one knows about my furry side.....like no one cept here on the internet

Iron Wolf's picture
"Build a man a fire, keep him warm for a day. Light a man on fire, keep him warm for the rest of his life."

Location: Pottstown, Pennsylvania, United States

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I sometimes like to go to say, the mall or something wearing my tail and collar. I have aggression problems and I'd do it to try to get someone to fight me about it, but no one ever has. I've come to realize it's cause I'm huge and most people are afraid to fight me. But this just goes to show you that most people are cowards anyway, so it really shouldn't bother you if they heckle you. You show more courage by being open about your furryness than those that persecute. Everyone I know knows that I'm a fur, friends, family, and even some strangers. The only people that shall never know is the army... I'm just not comfortable explaining that one to my Captain. LOL.

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I would hope that you would find a better outlet for your aggressions, one that does not make it look like furries are psychotics who are going to beat you up if you look at them the wrong way.

I myself have only worn a tail to a mall while in full business attire and neatly groomed. I find it increases the mind-blow value by a factor of 50-100, particularly if I play it as though there is nothing at all out of the ordinary, such as giving people odd looks when they inquire as if they are completely out of their minds.

heh-heh-heh!

Alondro's picture
"Lions are lazy, very lazy. However, never tell one that to its face, lest you be sliced like bacon."

Location: NJ

Hee, that sounds most amusing.

I don't have a tail yet... hmmm...

*tinkers with his genes*

Intrinsicat's picture
"30 something by age, zero something by nature"

Location: Gettysburg, PA

It reminds me of one of my favorite sayings: Puritanism: The haunting fear that someone, somewhere may be happy (it's probably already been quoted here).

I’ve only recently planned to come to this convention because costuming is a favorite hobby of mine and I enjoy wearing costumes in general (at Halloween, midnight movie openings, etc.). I went to Borders for their Harry Potter book party dressed in my seven foot tall Dementor costume and people loved it. I guess I usually just wear them when the occasion might call for it, so I’ve never gotten any flak for it.

It just doesn’t seem like something that warrants judgment, but maybe it just takes one person to see something as a deviation from the norm – just like Halloween itself, or D&D, or anything else those “other” people are into. Sad, really. If people took half that critical energy and turned it on themselves, there’d be a lot less dysfunction in the world.

Alondro's picture
"Lions are lazy, very lazy. However, never tell one that to its face, lest you be sliced like bacon."

Location: NJ

Not just Puritanism..

A certain other major world religion seems to have crushing happiness as its primary goal.

Need I say more?

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