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Mirel's picture
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Location: England

'08 Will be my first Con, and i'm travelling from the UK; my question is this, does anybody know any Decent Airlines that'll get me reasonably close and are reasonably cheap?

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BlackJack's picture
Location: NYC

Well,
I'd check the websites that offer cheap fares.
Travelocity's UK site is showing flights from London's Heathrow, round-trip,
for around 287 pounds sterling, including tax,
via United Airlines.

For example.

Kittynoy's picture
Location: London

Where did you find that fare?
Cheapest one I could find was $772 (again, via United. YAY UNITED!).
Noy

BlackJack's picture
Location: NYC

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'08 Will be my first Con, and i'm travelling from the UK; my question is this, does anybody know any Decent Airlines that'll get me reasonably close and are reasonably cheap?
Cheers.

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I'd check the websites that offer cheap fares.
Travelocity's UK site is showing flights from London's Heathrow, round-trip,
for around 287 pounds sterling, including tax,
via United Airlines.
For example.

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Where did you find that fare?
Cheapest one I could find was $772 (again, via United. YAY UNITED!).
Noy

I found it on Travelocity's UK site, as I mentioned.

I replicated your result, which is a newbie mistake I myself made once.
You tried to look up fares for NOW, not checking the dates.
However, on sites like Travelocity, the further along you look, the lower the prices
are. That's based on the idea that they want to fill the seats on all their planes,
and that as early as possible. So, enter the dates you want to travel. For AC, that's
all the way in June, so the prices are lower now than they will be later.

For travel from Heathrow to Pittsburgh TODAY, you'd pay $772.
For travel from Heathrow to Pittsburgh in the last week of June, you'd pay 287 pounds sterling.

Please note that Uncle Kage's pointed out that my rule is more of a rule-of-thumb,
and often, prices will drop suddenly closer to an event.
Plus, last year, there was an airline that offered some seriously cut rates to
Pittsburgh in the Spring (US to US, though.)

Plus, try different sites. I mentioned one, Uncle Kage mentioned another.

Kittynoy's picture
Location: London

Searching for a flight from Landan Britland, to arrive at Pittsburgh, 25/June - 30/June - £386.33.
Time it by 2.05 = $791.97
Even more than the price I found.
If you go to some sort of a magical cheaper Travelocity, please do share...
Noy

BlackJack's picture
Location: NYC

*enters Heathrow to Pittsburgh, in Travelocity, UK*
*enters June 25 and June 30 as travel dates*

"Price per adult incl. £174.50 taxes and fees: £386.33".

That's PER PERSON, and ROUND-TRIP.
It lists the Outbound (going) information,
then the Inbound (returning) information.

If you thought that was one-way, NO. You have to select for a one-way search,
and USUALLY they're more expensive to put together as a round-trip.
(But feel free to check, there may be a surprise.)

If you're asking about airfare for 2 people, THAT would be double, of course.

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Kittynoy's picture
Location: London

Well, hmmm... yrrrrs.
The price I was refering to (772 green ones) was for a round trip Lon-Pit 25/6-30/6 (cheapest on united.com If I'm not mistaken).
I was wondering where you've got 287 (in pictures of the queen) from (which is 588.35 commenly used in the united states dollars).
Noy

BlackJack's picture
Location: NYC

The 287 pounds was one price I saw, when I picked a date at random. It might have been specific to that day, or it may have been temporary and bumped up since then. For your SPECIFIC days, one person round-trip is 387 pounds, now.

Kittynoy's picture
Location: London

Or 15.09 pounds less if you check Kayak.
That means I can mark whole $9.4 off my AC badget whiteboard (previous price of flight - $772) W00t! (that is under the false assumption that the rates would be the same by the time I'd book the flight, but shtill)
Noy

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Actually, I find that the cheapest fares can be found by finding the airline with the lowest fares on the intar-webs, and then going straight to that airline's web page.

I get my cheapest flights at usairways.com -- not the world's best airline, but since they control 80% of Philadelphia, I don't get much choice.

(and before anyone pipes up, I don't have the time to make the drive to the surrounding airports).

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Try Kayak.

Kittynoy's picture
Location: London

Speaking of flights from Europeland to United States of Americaland, It accured to me that every flight would require a change between flights, upon arriving at some airport within the "new" world.
I remember a few years back, when traveling to New York, I had to face a pretty Hollywood-like scene involving a line of several million people, signs that indicate what left and right index finger mean, and a scary man at the end of the line who suspect we are terrorists and takes our picture and finger prints (Fellow travelers did the terrible crime of having some piece of paper that was stapled to their passport from a previous trip to Canada, still stapled. The scary man made treats of throwing them to jail and/or giving them a fairly big fine because of that, but pretty much just left them horrified even years after the event).

I don't (and would like to) know:
a. Do scary men like that still work in all major airports and have to deal with huge lines of people who only want to enter the country and start their trip?
b. Do people who are privileged to own an EU passport that automatically grants them a visting visa have to face the scary man?
c. Most importantly, if one must face the scary man, would it be at the interchange, or when arriving at Pittsburgh?

I ask this, because there's a very nice flight that leaves Britland at morning time and lands in Pittsburgh at 1:30 (local time), with about 1 and a half hours worth of wait at the interchanging airport.
I suppose it's quite doable if you don't have to deal with pests such as that on your way, but if so, it's best to take a 2.5+ layaway flight...
Noy

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It wasn't that bad for AC07, but fairly close. I went from Gatwick to Pittsburgh via Philadelphia - the scary man was more of a bored man, but yeah, all this took place at Philadelphia (or wherever you first land in the US). The Pittsburgh leg is easy (except that I had been awake for 23 hours at that point).

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a. Do scary men like that still work in all major airports and have to deal with huge lines of people who only want to enter the country and start their trip?

That is true of any nation today. When you arrive there will be a line, and there will be a person at the front asking you questions. Not all of them are scary, though. Some of them (usually the ones who have not been on the job long) can be very nice. Just be certain to know what hotel you are staying in, how long you are staying, and what the purpose of your visit is. I don't suggest saying "A furry convention." That means nothing to the person. "An arts conference" or simply "tourism" is usually sufficient.

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b. Do people who are privileged to own an EU passport that automatically grants them a visting visa have to face the scary man?

You will have to talk to someone, and hopefully that person will not be scary. Passport control is unavoidable when you pass international boundaries.

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c. Most importantly, if one must face the scary man, would it be at the interchange, or when arriving at Pittsburgh?

Passport control is always at the First Port of Entry, which in your case is almost certain to be Philadelphia. If not, then whatever your stopover airport is. BE WARNED! You will have to claim your bags when you arrive at Philadelphia and then re-check them at your connecting flight. They will not be checked all the way through to your destination. Thus, you are far, far better off with a long connection. 1.5 hours may be enough, but if the bags are delayed coming off the belt (which I can guarantee you they will be in Philadelphia), you may not make it in time.

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Location: London

I think there's a big, if not huge difference between passport control I know (and sometimes seem to love. Heathrow's line for EU passport holders is one of the most efficient and comfort line I've ever been queuing at) and my experience in New York.
They took our finger prints, pictures asked loads of questions, and as I mentioned before, threatening us several times.
I'm guessing it's just New York trying to show its iron fist to tourists, in an effort to make a great first impression.

Luckily, United's flights (cheap ones anyway) don't land in the big apple, but at Washington and Chicago.

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It seems prices have shifted (as they often do, up and down), and currently very uncomfortable slightly more expensive flights are available.
It's seems waiting and hoping is in order...
Noy

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While It's not directly connected to flying, I have a question about traveling.
Now, I never been to the US, not even on a plane Sticking out tongue This whole Visa thing is new for me, and I hope you guys can help me with some things.

From the application form:

"Name and Telephone Numbers of Person in U.S. Who You Will Be Staying With or Visiting for Tourism or Business"
Should I give them your number Kage? Sticking out tongue

"What is The Purpose of Your Trip?"
Yeah, well this is self explanatory...

I think, this is it for the time being, but threat not... I'll make up some more stupid questions...

Recherei's picture
Location: New Jersey

I have found a number of airlines that "fly under the radar" so to speak. They do not participate with any of the internet discounters and/or only book five months in advance. Sometimes the only way to learn of them is to go to the individual airport's websites and search them for their list of airlines and the cities they serve.

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