A few questions (New kid here!)

Majalo's picture
"Sanity is vastly overrated"

Hello there,

My name is Majalo (call me Maj though) and yes.. I'm new. I've been interested in Anthrocon and Fursuits for /years/. Even if I am 14 years old.

Well, I've got a few questions for ya. I hope its not too much trouble to ask. Aheh.

Would it be wiser to wait till I'm finished growing before getting a suit? I'm -really- interested, it looks fun!
No way am I making one, it'd look like a mutant thinga-ma-jig!

My parents are EXTREMELY spazzy about me meeting people in a big.. convention things. Its even spazzier when they realize that I might meet people I've talked to on the internet. (XDD)
My Dad thinks its kinda cool, but I haven't really gotten him to look at some of the stuff I've seen/read.
Is there ANY way I can make them relax about going to Anthrocon if I ever get the chance to beg them?

I've got two younger brothers, I don't mean like.. 5 years old or anything. Do you think they'd have fun? They're really hyperactive and I -know- for a fact I don't get to go anywhere without those two following me. >>;

Thats about it, thanks peeps!

-flee-

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Giza's picture
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Bring your parents along. Seriously.

The Chairman's parents attend every year. My parents have attended in years past, and they've already made their hotel reservations for 2008.

You also might want to point your parents to our Standards of Conduct, which all attendees are required to follow.

 
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My parents are EXTREMELY spazzy about me meeting people in a big.. convention things. Its even spazzier when they realize that I might meet people I've talked to on the internet.

Frankly, they have every right to be concerned. Anthrocon has the finest security available in the Dorsai Irregulars, but even they cannot be everywhere. The convention brings in nearly 3000 people from all over the world, and as is true with any large group of people, there is no predicting what any one of them may be like. For example, a lot of people talk to me on the internet, only to find out I'm a creepy old man in real life.

Giza's right. Bring your parents along. We're planning on having at least one function for Parents of Furries (POF's?) and there'll be lots of people their age to hang out with, so they're bound to have a good time as well.

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just dont set up Parents of older furries (POOFs)!

Alondro's picture
"Lions are lazy, very lazy. However, never tell one that to its face, lest you be sliced like bacon."

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Yes, Kage is very creepy...

And VERY VERY VERY old! Extremely old! In fact, Kage's so old that he calls God a young whippersnapper! Kage was around for the invention of sand! ;D

EDIT: Hee hee! He hasn't noticed yet! I shall continue adding poorly conceived age jokes! >:}

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"What is this "logic" you speak of?"

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Yes, Kage is very creepy...

And VERY VERY VERY old! Extremely old! In fact, Kage's so old that he calls God a young whippersnapper! Kage was around for the invention of sand! ;D

EDIT: Hee hee! He hasn't noticed yet! I shall continue adding poorly conceived age jokes! >:}

Must I remind you that Uncle Kagé's parents attend Anthrocon as well? Eye-wink

desteredra's picture
"Little dragon. Big mouth."

Location: Philadelphia area, PA

Ah, but they're even older. And creepier. Definitely creepier. Especially that grandma kage...

Never trust a woman who hangs around a bunch of furries; they're bound to be a bad influence on her.

--dester'edra, bad influence

Majalo's picture
"Sanity is vastly overrated"

Thanks guys! Yeah, internet predators just..uggh scare the snot out of me.
At least you don't lie about being a 'creepy old man'.

I'm gonna show this all to my Dad when he gets home.
Hopefully he won't go into 'lecture' mode. xD

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Location: Northern VA

Parents will be parents. However, if they're along the lines of willing to be rational and at least listen, you might have a decent chance.

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Even if he goes into lecture-mode, keep in your mind that he's doing it because he doesn't want to see you get yourself into trouble.

Majalo's picture
"Sanity is vastly overrated"

Heh yeah. Gets annoying when you're already scared and they just shove it in your face repeatedly.

Man, I know they're protective for a reason and a good one at that, but do they need to feel the need to give me nightmares.

(Thanks by the way, Uncle Kage.You rock.)

Volknochi's picture
Location: Northern VA

All you really can do is just present to them in a manner that will show them the good side of it all. There is always going to be some bad sides to everything, but if they ask questions, just be prepared and stick to your guns. I'm sure you'll do alright.

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"Sanity is vastly overrated"

Good plan. :]

desteredra's picture
"Little dragon. Big mouth."

Location: Philadelphia area, PA

If you wanted to give them a taste of what they might find at the gather, you could also point them to this site, which has the 'what is furry' and 'about anthrocon' sections, a schedule of last year's events (for reference), the standards of conduct, pictures from previous years, and loads of friendly staff and attendees *smilesandwaves* who would be happy to tell them all about our experiences at AC. And there are even more of us to be found on anthrocon's livejournal, which has a link here.

Sometimes parents are less nervous if they feel like they've got carte blanche to find out about their kids' friends and interests for themselves.

Hey, Majalo's folks! *bouncesandwavesclawsintheair* Come! You know you want to! All the cool parents are doin' it! *impishgrin*

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Location: Cambridge, MA

Would it be wiser to wait till I'm finished growing before getting a suit? I'm -really- interested, it looks fun!

Waiting till you're older to get a full fursuit is a good idea. Those puppies will set you back over $1000 by most counts, so it would rather suck to outgrow that in a year or two.

On the other hand, a partial suit (head + arms + feet) will probably last you longer, and won't be so expensive to begin with. And a partial is enough to let you march in the Fursuit Parade.

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Majalo's picture
"Sanity is vastly overrated"

Sweet, so a partial suit (head, tail, arms, feet) would last me longer? Sounds good!

And, I've seen the parade vids on youtube. Looks like so much fun! -squeal of glee- If I get to go, I'll be the one screaming and bouncing around like a dork. Just because I..tend to do that. XD

Volknochi's picture
Location: Northern VA

Full suits, I've noticed, start at $1500 and go up, depending on what options you want. One place will charge $2500 and up for theirs. Yikes.

Partial suits will start at around $900. Still expensive, but almost half the cost of a full suit.

BlackJack's picture
Location: NYC

A) Furry=\=fursuiter.
Most of us don't own fursuits, and wouldn't want to pack one.

B) Since some people have put effort into spreading ignorance about furries as far as
possible, it would help if you had some ACCURATE information about furries ready.

For example, Mark Evanier (who's worked on tv, comic books, cartoons, etc), is not a
furry, and hadn't really heard of furry until he was approached to be a Guest of Honor
for AnthroCon 2007.

He wrote about his expectations before the convention,
and his experiencesnduring and after the convention.
And he's not a furry.

So, look over what he wrote:
http://www.newsfromme.com/archives/2007_07_02.html#013668

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nthrocon is — I cribbed this from their website — the world's largest convention for those fascinated with anthropomorphics, which are humanlike animal characters. It's a gathering of folks who draw, write about, dress up as or just enjoy cartoon animals. I'll tell you more about it from there.

There will be panels. On Friday afternoon at 1:30, Carolyn and I will be doing a panel about writing and drawing comic books and cartoons. On Sunday at 10 AM, Rob and I will be discussing the cartoon voice field and then at 2 PM, Carolyn and I will be talking about Pogo. There are other panels and games and presentations and exhibitors and an art show and if you're there, please say howdy. If you're not there, watch this spot for reports on what you missed.

http://www.newsfromme.com/archives/2007_07_05.html#013678

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We're here for the Anthrocon, which as I've explained is a convention of "furry" fans — folks with a passion for human-like animals or animal-like humans or blurring the line of demarcation between them. This fandom has endured a fair amount of mocking in the past, often from folks who oughta know better, given how their own interests have prompted ridicule from others. I come to it with my belief that, first of all, every group — up to and including those in which I am a willing participant — has its overzealous, embarrassing faction. It's not only wrong but a cheap, disingenuous trick to characterize an entire movement by its atypical element. It's kind of like those political arguments that try to tar every Republican/Conservative with the low moral standing of Ann Coulter or every Democrat/Liberal as being guilty of the sins of Lewis Farrakahn. Secondly, I figure that anything that makes people happy without making others unhappy is worthy of great respect/

http://www.newsfromme.com/archives/2007_07_07.html#013681

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I'm due at another event so my big discourse on Anthrocon will have to wait for another time. All I'll say for now is that this is one of the happiest conventions I've attended in 37 years of con-going. It's not about selling things. It's not about launching careers...at least, not in the way it would be if there were publishers here looking to hire. It's not even all that much about dressing up as some other species. I'll try and articulate what it is about when I don't have to rush off and shake hands. Or paws. Or whatever it is some of them have.

http://www.newsfromme.com/archives/2007_07_08.html#013689

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They were one of the features of Anthrocon. Another was the sheer friendliness of almost 3000 people who gathered this weekend and had, like my friend Carolyn and me, a very good time. It's a bit difficult to explain what goes on at a "furry" convention. Unlike your big comic conventions, it's not about commerce. The Dealers Room is small and the sellers mainly have furry costume parts (good place to get an extra tail) or handmade artifacts with an animal theme. There are a lot of artists around doing animal sketches for small fees and many of those artists are quite gifted and well encouraged by the experience. There's an art show. There are programming items. (Today, I did a panel with cartoon voice superstar Rob Paulsen on animation voicing and later, another with Carolyn on Pogo and the work of her father, the late Walt Kelly.) There are games and films and puppet shows — there are a lot of splendid puppeteers here — and parties. Mostly, I guess it's about seeing one another. Though this is the largest convention of its kind, it's still small enough that everyone almost seems to know everyone else.

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've received a few e-mails asking if I could explain why these folks like to dress up like animals or adopt animal nicknames or write tales of anthropomorphic animals. No, I can't. Just as I can't explain why people in this world do a lot of things that don't coincide with my tastes or interests. I don't understand why people get tattoos or pierce body parts or eat cole slaw or ride roller coasters or vote for George Bush or sleep with some of the people they sleep with...or do any of a thousand other things I could name that I cannot conceive of myself ever doing. I am, however, capable of appreciating that some who find joy in such activities are fine, good people and I would be doing myself a disservice to erect any sort of needless barrier between them and me. With the exception of the ones who vote for Bush, they do me no harm...and maybe, when they're not doing whatever it is I don't "get," they're doing something I can learn from or even want to emulate.

The folks I've met here at Anthrocon — with fewer exceptions than you'd imagine — have been decent, bright, creative and charming people. Does dressing up occasionally in a furry suit make you that way? Maybe not. If it does, I can think of a lot of people who ought to be in chipmunk costumes this very minute.


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Not SPECIFICALLY about AnthroCon, but about furry cons
(about FurFright in CT, which is a sister con that many ACers also attend),
is this article, written by a reporter who WANTED to write about pervy stuff,
but couldn't find any to writeabout....
http://www.hartfordadvocate.com/article.cfm?aid=3873
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"Your parents don't know?" I asked.

"No. They wouldn't approve."

"I don't see why. I've seen much weirder stuff at sci-fi and comic cons than anything here."

"Media sensationalism," Skunk said. "When the media does a story about Fur fandom, they pick the weirdest, most extreme people and say we're all like that."

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Children's cartoons, Red Cross fundraisers, team sports and adult content kept discreetly out of sight. How wholesome.

Every half-hour I went to the bathroom to take notes in a private stall, and at 9 p.m. wrote: "May as well have gone to a Catholic school Halloween party. The dance starts in half an hour. Maybe something will happen there."

When I heard the strains of "Hungry Like The Wolf" emanating from the ballroom, I walked in to see a little toddler girl dancing with someone in a bunny suit. A minute later the girl abandoned the bunny to pull a cartoon fox onto the dance floor. She got more excited each time a new animal entered the room (good thing the mutant rabbit had left).

One man leaning against the wall surveyed the scene with a proud expression. "She's definitely my daughter," he smiled at me. "Look how much fun she's having."

"Of course," I said. "She's in a roomful of giant stuffed animals all come to life and dancing with her."

"You know," her father said reflectively, "I haven't been to a con since Anthrocon [another Furry gathering] a few years ago. These are the only people I trust. There's definitely a friendly vibe here."

There was. But what about the sex vibes I'd hoped to find? If I'd peeked behind every hotel-room door I probably would've found something, but that's true at any gathering of hundreds of people far from home. The Furry convention wasn't a sex thing but the exact opposite: an innocent world of children's-book animals, where a 3-year-old can roam with impunity and a maladjusted kid can enter the room with nobody leaving.

Since a lot of people only know incorrect information about furries,
and are PROUD to remain ignorant,
it falls upon you to have some accurate information handy for them.

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And yes, by all means, your parents are welcome at the convention.
We have no more to hide than any OTHER fan convention.
(Which means I've invited my OWN parents, although they won't be attending.)

LeonWolf's picture
Location: UK, London

hey blackjack and hey new guy!! just wanted to say thanks to blackjack for being so kind and endlessly helpful, some facts would really help me when my parents go ape about the subject, and ofcourse thanks to the new guy for posting this topic. wel back to begging my parents so i can actually attend *sighs*

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i am going to give ou some advice i have been to a couple of cons one of wich was an anime con called sakura con, the other was rainfurrest, a furry con. now the cool thing about these cons is they are fun, but the difference in these cons is if somthing goes wrong the anime con wont know what happend, while the furry con, everyone drops what they are doing just to help the person out.basicaly furries are a family, and like all families they help each other out.

now i may not be the most expirienced in the fandom, but i think alot of furs will agree with me, if you wait on getting a suit, unless you make one, which i highly recomend. not only is it a expierience, but it gives you a better respect to the suit and the suit builder.

also some other factors come in other than look... waitting list, detail of costume, price, for example the average fursuit cost from 1200 dollars to around 2500 dolars depending on detail and after you ave submited it you might not see yours, for a good year, and i dont think your parents want to invest that much to a costume, and i dont think you have the money seeing as your only 14.

also if this is going to be your first con, i would highly recomend going to smaller furry cons and get a feel for it.

and on the note of bringing your parents, i beleve its requred for underage attendees to have parents or a gaurdian on the premises. and its also generaly a good idea

as for begging them them videos of the fun had at cons, or if, worst come to worst make a deal with them like if you can go, you will mow the lawn for a month somthing like that.

and if the absolutly worst thing happens that you cannot go, its not the end of the world there is always next year, and maybe they will have lightened up abit and said ok maybe this year.

but always keep your head high and hopefull.

also this will make my first trek to anthrocon as well. Smiling
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were can you see lions... only at anthrocon!!!

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im 13 (14 soon Laughing out loud ) but i look about sixteen and one of my resposerbal 'parents' is my sister (21 btw) so would it be ok if she came?

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She can come in addition, but as far as parental consent goes, that can only be given by a parent or legal guardian. So your parents would have to either attend, or fill out the permission form (which is not yet available, sorry!).

 
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I was wondering about that. I have two friends who need it ASAP or else their parents will say no to allowing them to go.

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The best advice I can offer, is for you to try to find other furries that are your age, pre-fur-ably local so that you can help each other build stuff. You can make oversized paws, and use adjustable "bump-caps" in a head which can be loosened up when you grow, but by then you will be on your 3rd suit anyway b'cause its an addiction, LOL!

Jeefers

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the best peice of advice I can give you when telling your parents about this is to be confident about it and dont put lots of emphasis on "Its just a hobby, we dont EVER do anything innapropriate there" Too many furs act all scared when asked about furry and immediately go on the defensive. This concerns the people that asked because the first thing they are gonna ask is "why are you all worried about me thinking there is innapropriate stuff there?" and they will then do all sorts of extensive research JUST to find out what kinds of stuff you might have been reffering to.

Just do what shy wolf said to do. Stick to a positive note, dont even hint on anything bad. if they ask questions, just answer them honestly and be prepared to encourage them to come with you. AC has volunteer programs too, so your parents can choose to come with you while you fold Tshirts with Grandma Kage or load the moving van at the storage depot. There are lots of other opportunities to volunteer, but im not sure what the policies on minors volunteering, Check the FAQ first and if that doesnt help, Giza or Kage could cover that better.

Really, all you got to do is use common sense at a con. remember not to go into any hotel rooms other than your own. Dont invite someone in there when your parents arent there. The water jugs set throughout the con are safe to drink. The con staff and con center staff both keep a good eye on these, so if your parents worry about people tampering with these, you can lay their worries to rest, im pretty sure this has never happened. If a bunny offers you cookies, contrary to what your parents told you about strangers with candy, the bunny's cookies are safe to eat. and quite good too. He brings em every year for congoers so dont worry about eating them. Im sure any of the con staff will back me up on this too.

as for fursuiting, get a partial suit done as they are easier to deal with, easier to get on, and when and it takes longer to grow out of them and they are easier to refit to your new body sizes. All in all, it might portray a whole new appearance(more humanoid as you will wear clothing to go with teh partial suit), its a better option for a begginer suiter. Plus, these are cheaper to make and not as hot. Granted, the full body suit does have a better appearance, its more expensive and you dont want to get a fursuit and find out you dont like it after paying a buttload of money to have it made. Oh, and having a fursuit will give you an opportunity to get your parents involved on a positive note. This year we will be breaking an official world record for most mascot costumers in a parade. Im -pretty sure we have already broke it in some of the past years, but this year there will be officials there to do an actual count. So your parents might like the idea of you being part in such an interesting event.

Ill also suggest that if you get any kind of suit done, make sure to get 3D eyes on the head. Glass eyes may give a more realistic appearance, but they are a pain in the butt to see through.

as for your brothers, they should be able to come. I remember Stan Sakai brought his kids and they had lots of fun, he ended up bringing them a couple more years after that and they kept having fun. I even see the occasional little kid on the dance floor in the rave every year. Just get em a little tail done at the dealers room and they will have a blast.

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Sometimes its best to have youre parents there for the first time, eases you into the experience of a hotel con. Cause going there alone or anything like that can be quite overwhelming besides! Volunteering will earn you kudo point with the rest of the con ^^

=^.^= Pyhrra =^.^=

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Following up on this, we now have a FAQ section for folks under the ages of 18 and 21 who would like to attend. It should answer your questions:

http://www.anthrocon.org/faq/minors

Enjoy!

 
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Definitely bring your parents. If things go as planned I'll be the oldest of three generations of Simmons' at Anthrocon, and they should take that as my recommendation of Anthrocon as a good place for folks of all ages. Plus if they hang out with the security staff there will be lots of kids your parents age for them to play with, er, talk to. Like, say, me. Smiling

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