More Fans/chairs/security in the Headless lounge '08?
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I don't know if anyone addressed this yet or not, but last year, despite the sheer ammount of suiters at the con, there was a deplorably small number of fans or places to sit in the headless lounge. last year's(07) lounge was basically: - Huge wide open space When you've got upwards of like 50+ people at a time, and more than that during peak hours, it becomes problematic fairly quickly. Alot of people were stuck sitting/laying on the floor, waiting for a fan to stand in front of, or a fan to rest their wet/hot suit heads on. Also for whatever reason, random non-suiter people just kept wandering into the lounge. And not even spotters/helpers either. just like, straight up random groups of people just hanging out & drinking the water. It got kind of annoying at one point on saturday afternoon. It'd be really cool @ AC'08 to see an increase in the number of cooling-off fans, chairs, & maybe someone hanging out at the doors to keep the gawkers out of the lounge. :3 |
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IIRC, Mirabem, most of these questions were addressed right after the con.
Apparently, some of the fans were damaged during the trek to Pittsburgh. I don't know how many were brought or were active at any time (I'm not a fursuiter), but I am fairly certain Kage said that would not happen in 2008.
I also believe that Kage stated they would have the water tanks in the Headless Lounge filled more often in '08 as well.
As for security, I feel certain that a volunteer could be found to prevent random people from entering the Lounge.
These statements reflect only my own rapidly-failing memory. However, bringing them up again can't hurt.
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permalinkI had my 2 fans there, one a head fan the other a fairly blowy house fan.. mine were some of the first there.
I would have been happy to hang around the headless lounge more, cept for the fact I was ill most of the con, and didn't even get to wear my own suit.
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permalinkLocation: New Brighton, MN, USA
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I've seen piles of furs just ganged up in front of the fan.
Oh, and I learned a neat trick last year to mount your fursuit head in front of the fan. Putting it back on after just a half hour is seemingly icy cold! ^^
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You forgot to mention:
- air conditioning running full blast all weekend at an additional cost of $1000 from the convention center
Look, we're not mind readers. As Charlie said, many of the problems were discussed after the con. But it would have been far more effective for someone to notify Operations of the shortcomings during the con, when it might have been possible to improve the situation at the time. (Vandalizing signs doesn't count as notification, either.)
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Hey, I was just mentioning/pointing it out. I was suiting the entire con. It's pretty much my reason for going, so it's something that stood out in my memory.
I don't live on these forums, or for that matter regularly check them, so I wasn't aware(like I said in my first sentence
) if these issues had been addressed prior or not.
If I'd known at the time (which I didn't) that I could have actually gone and said "hey, could we pleeeeese please get some more chairs/fans?" to someone, by all means, trust me I would have.
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permalinkFrom where I sat and roved last year, the problems with the headless lounge in the convention center were User Error. That is, the doors were being propped open for the comfort of the non-fursuiters. This allowed all that expensive cool air to flow out into the rest of the convention center.
In the past security has kept a hands off approach to the Headless Lounge, unless there was a problem. The fursuiters liked their privacy, etc. This approached worked well until last year.
Last year I saw way too many non-fursuiters going in and out. Most of these were not handlers.
The fursuiters using the lounge should be policing themselves, as in keeping the doors closed and encouraging the non-fursuiters to remain outside.
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I concur. Although we could probably see about getting a volunteer to sit outside and serve as a door guard. We haven't the staff to spare for that duty, but hopefully we can find enough people to do one- or two-hour shifts making sure that the door stays closed, and that only fursuiters go in.
Now, right up front, we're going to have to make a rule that says, "If you aren't walking alongside a fursuiter, you don't go in." It's a little awkward to have to give a volunteer a huge list of conditionals. "If this person does this, then it's ok, but if he says this, then..." It's got to be very simple, very black and white.
That will control traffic through the door and will keep the cool air in; however, it is still going to be up to the people inside the room to help maintain order. If there's folks hanging out in there without suits, do not be afraid to ask them politely to leave. The purpose of the room is to server as a waystation for fursuiters to stop in and cool down, get a drink, or rest their feet for a few moments. Despite the name (which I regret having coined for this very reason) it is not a "lounge." If a fursuiter wants to get out of suit while in the room, that's fine. Once out of suit, you should be out of the room, though.
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Perhaps, as a suggestion, a small badge or something for the handlers to wear to show that they are with their suiting friend? That way there would be less confusion as to who is or isn't assisting those in costume.
Just a small thought.
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Hey Kage, that's actually a really good idea having a volunteer staff of door watchers. I'd happily volunteer to do that for an hour or two. As long as everything goes smooth and everyone refrains from gettin an attitude when we do our job, then I won't have to go sergeant all over them.
As an aside, it would also be nice if you took it easy on the truck Kage. Lol, as I recall it, those fans were fine when we loaded them.
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I blame the condition of route 28 between Etna and Pittsburgh!
(and the idiot drivers who are just too frickin' slow and must be swerved around.)
Also, our door guards aren't allowed to "go sergeant." They must be polite at all times. It's why the Dorsai drink so much.
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Rene (head of security) and I are discussing a few of these ideas. Once we're sure he, I and Kage are on the same page, we'll bring that discussion here.
Just FYI.
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Come down for a few days, I'm making head cooling racks for my workshop :3
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permalinkLocation: Maryland, USA
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I'll be bringing a couple fans with me to help out with this situation. I have a 25" high velocity fan, and one of the "Head Dryer" types too.
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permalinkif anyone brings a fan. make sure your name and phone # is on it
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