Need some suggestions for making a Fursuit head "Raver" friendly
Posted by Zeke Shadowfyre (Zeke Shadowfyre) on Mon, 2008-03-10 18:54
 "Free Lulz here! =>" Location: Norfolk Virginia
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A friend of mine has a Problem with Sensitivity to light....Not seizure "spazz", but more of becoming unaware of her surroundings until someone drags her out, which happened last year at Nekocon. Any Suggestions on what type of lenses to use with her head to keep her from being affected if there are flashing lights at the rave? |
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If she's epileptic, then the only surefire way of not having an attack is NOT TO GO. If she has a real condition, then this shouldn't even enter into the realm of possibilities. There's way too many times in the past people have done something stupid and the medics had to get involved and it ruined the con for alot of people.
Just a thought. Good luck in finding.
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permalinkJust because someone is having a seizure doesn't mean they're epileptic. She could very well have nonepileptic seizures. You also have to remember, seizure doesn't just mean Petty Mal or Gran Mal.
A seizure can mean an alteration of behavior, awareness, or any other functions of the body.
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If someone has seizures because of bright or strobing lights, its a very good chance its' epilepsy. I'm not here to discuss the exceptions to the rule. I'm here to say: A seizure of any kind in a crowded, confusing place in the dark is NOT A GOOD THING AND SHOULD BE AVOIDED.
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I do have to agree that the safest thing is not to go.
Has she seen a physician about this interesting phenomenon? Without further information, it sounds like the petit-mal form of epilepsy, which can be controlled in many cases with medication.
I am skeptical that any form of lens will help. The lights will still be flashing; they will just not be as bright. I would worry that a lens that darkens the room enough to prevent her from having a problem would make it impossible for her to see, much like wearing sunglasses into a dark room.
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permalinkThe DJs may or may not use strobe lights, I'm sure some of them will use them.
I don't think even anti-glare lenses will help. What normally sets people off from light sensitive disorders are flash frequencies from 5 Hz to 70 Hz. In other words your friend needs to get out when they turn the strobe lights on if possible.
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permalinkI was just thinking to myself earlier so I've a question now.
Why did she even enter a rave with flashing lights if she knew it would happen? Raves, computer games, tv, alcohol, sleepless nights can all be fun, but why even participate in activities which are a known danger to ones self?
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She didn't know she had the problem with rave lights until she stepped in. Video Games, TV, and other things do not affect her. It's not an epileptic Seizure...it's more of standing there and loosing awareness for a few moments...More of a Trance...
Her attention is split visually, so her attention goes into the light instead of everything else. It's like with me and Metal concers, except my attention goes to both the music and moshers instead of the person beside me.
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permalinkOh, I see. Its still a seizure, like I mentioned to another person. I didn't think it was epilepsy related. She should see a doctor to get diagnosed. The question is, what would happen if she was driving and all the sudden there were big flashy things like in Vegas?
I don't know the names of illnesses which are like what you describe, but they do exist. :/ It could even be psychosomatic though. I think it would be best to not only see a doctor, but a psychologist who might even know more on the subject.
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She had ADHD and ADD, so it could be an added symptom.
I told her, and she's a little bummed out about it, depending if there are alot of strobes or not she will more than likely be fine unless the lights are fully darkened and the only thing thats on are the Strobes, Blacklights and a few glowsticks (Or alot) swirrling around.
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permalinkIf she is on medication for the ADD/ADHD, she might want to go see a different psychologist for another opinion. She might also want to try a different medication. ADD/ADHD is something you kinda grow out of, but there could always be underlying problems. I can't think of a easy to way to explain, but it is best she visit a mental health center. You never know when the problem might be something serious like a tumor. The best example I always hear from the doctor is this one, "I had a bipolar case sent to me from a family practitioner who was placed this person on bipolar medication. She sent me the person because she wasn't absolutely sure, and its a good thing she did. I had the person undergo a MRI and the person had a brain tumor. Once the tumor was removed the person was perfectly healthy."
This is why I never just trust a general medical doctor without going to a spedcialist. Even now I'm finding some things out about ADD and myself which could've been fixed/helped years ago. I probably wouldn't have had to go through unintentional drug induced turrets(vocal ticks, not swearing) if I knew more about dietary back then.
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I don't think she is anymore...(I hope)
Which brings up another note: we have other people's pills in our drinking water!!!!
-ahem- I'll tak to her about some solutions so she won't be bummed out because she can't use her Giant rave deathstick.
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permalinkWow, that is some serious sensitivity, a single glowstick will even create an episode? She might want to see a optomitrist as well. Getting diagnosed should be a priority over the con for something like that. You never know what it may be, any problems from eye to brain.
Yet another reason I live in the middle of nowhere. I get my water out of an automatic well. The only thing in high qty which I drink is perhaps a higher level of copper and maybe a small amount of coal.
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Mmm, delicious life-giving carbon.
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Not the Litsaber causing it (Good Google no, I swing my red one sometimes and She dosen't spazz out), but more of the bright strobes that some Haunted houses use for lightning effects, or Raves use that bink on and off wirh a mix of other colored lights.
She had gotten Death Stick (Aka, lightsaber) for Christmas and wanted to use it at a Con.
Estradiol (Sp?) is in our water...It's giving frogs boobies...XP.
If it isn't ADHD, I guess it could be Optical connected to the brain...Which probably answers my Question with My Mate and him becoming dizzy with the spinning Windchimes or Christmas Decorations
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permalinkI've never heard of ADHD causing such problems. If she has been on ADHD medication, she should see a Psychiatrist(sorry, I kept using the word Psychologist) at a mental health clicic. They tend to know a great deal more than general doctors on medication interaction within the brain. Ever since I took this job as the IT for a mental health clinic, I've learned a great deal. The smallest thing can upset the chemical reactions in the brain.
If she wasn't on medication before, then I'd definitely see a general doctor at a hospital. A psychiatrist should refer her to a reliable doctor he/she knows.
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If she's suffering brief absence seizures as a result of strobing lights, its a kind of epilepsy called "Photosensitive epilepsy". Unlike "common knowledge" dictates, the amount and kind of light varies from case to case, as do the resulting seizures. Obviously, if it isn't psychosomatic, its a brief absence seizure of some nature, which can be controlled by sodium valproate, but there's no cure. SV just reduces the sensitivity. But if she's highly sensitive, with minor results, then it probobly isn't the way to go. Not that I'm diagnosing here or something, but just a headsup that there are a few dozen kinds of epilepsy, not just "Bright lights = lose control of body, best bite that tongue"(Which is a severe/severe Photosensitive epilepsy).
Anyways, I stick by my original statement of "If I'm allergic to bees, I'm not going to stick my fist in a hive".
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None of us (AFAIK) on this thread are physicians. Your friend needs to see a doctor about this.
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Even if he does only have two letters. *sulk*
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What? M.D?
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O.o?
X.x
Should I ask?
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It's the long-standing argument between Ph.D.'s (me) and M.D.'s (like Dr. K.) as to who the term "doctor" should refer to.
My position is that since the learned man has always been called "doctor," while the man who put leeches on you and pulled your teeth was until fairly recently called "barber."
Besides, I've got more letters than him, so there.
(Although I have recently discovered that Dr. K. actually has both an M.D. and a Ph.D., so I defer to his multiplicity of letters).
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You may want to read this:
Wikipedia entry on Absence Epilepsy
I know a little bit about this because I worked for NINDS during my college days maintainting equipment for a study of this. One of the tasks that I did was to build a device that flashed strobe lights at patients to induce these episodes. The results were anything from "being out of it" for a second or two all the way up to falling out of the chair and going into full body spasms. And in many of the cases, the patient was not even aware that anything happened. The device flashed the strobe at varying frequencies from 1 Hz to 7 Hz, a not uncommon range for light shows with approximately 3 Hz being most effective. And NO lense is going to stop this from happening, the patients kept their eyes shut and only saw the flashes through their eyelids.
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Look at you beating me to the punch. Note to self: Read all of thread next time.
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There will definately be bright and flashing lights, which can be a trigger for seizures in some people. Your friend should discuss the situation with their doctor before attending the dances, and if they do attend and experience any sort of weird physical sensations, they should leave the ballroom immediately. There will always be security at the entrance, so if you have any sort of medical emergency you'd want to let them know as soon as possible.
I strongly recommend against wearing any sort of light filters over your eyes while at the dance. Except during the "Fursuit Friendly" portions, we keep the house lights off and light the room exclusively with dance lighting, which means it's very dark.
We want everyone to have a good time, and medical emergencies have a tendency to ruin evenings very rapidly, so please, dance responsibly and dance safe
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