Travelling with checked bags

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Hi all,

Many fursuiters are becoming aware of this situation, but it's something that all convention attendees who are travelling by airplane should be aware of.

Starting May 5, some airlines are moving to a ONE checked bag allottment on flights. Any extra bags will cost you when you check in at the airport. United and US Airways will be enforcing this starting on May 5. Other airlines may follow.

The following article details some information, but you will want to check with your airline for specific information for your own flight. This will impact all domestic US flights going forward, so this isn't just a summertime thing.

Article: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB120519352406325701.html?mod=yahoo_buzz

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Okay that totally sucks.

Now I have to shell out yet another fee to fly to fur cons or only take one fursuit.

I suppose I will be driving more, and have to get better at packing all my non fur stuff in my carry on, assuming they don't start charging for your carry-on too!!!!

Oh well, there is always ride-sharing.

Jeef

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Only one fursuit? That's terrible, the airlines imposing on you like that! And here I was thinking I was unfortunate for not having any fursuits at all.

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You should check your airline's individual policy.

For US Airways, the second-bag surcharge does not apply if you purchased your ticket prior to February 26th of this year. It also does not apply if you are a Preferred customer (Silver/Gold/Platinum/Chairmans).

United is the same, except the tickets must have been purchased prior to February 4.

Delta and Northwest still allow 2 bags to be checked for free (subject to weight limitations).

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Location: Dartmouth, Nova Scotia

Also, if your flying with an airline that does not charge for a 2nd bag that code shares with an airline that does, for example, Air Canada tends to code share with United a lot, but Air Canada does not charge for a 2nd bag, where United does, you'll only be charged for it upon returning. (Assuming you departed with Air Canada for example)

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Continental Airlines also allows two free checked bags per ticketed customer (each not to exceed 50 lbs.)

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I love how they try to justify doing this by saying their profitability has been decreasing, so they're charging people to make a profit again.

Anybody want to take bets on if they repeal this policy when the economy recovers and they start getting back their normal business? I bet not, once you have people paying for something you're not going to take that policy back (at least until they start flocking to other airlines who don't charge them).

And the joke of the month...
"US Airways spends roughly $250 million a year on baggage service, Mr. Parker says, and passing some of that cost to customers who actually use the service helps the airline offer lower basic fares"

I have 10-1 odds against fares going lower or even staying close to where they are now.

But anyway, thank you KP for delivering us this news. I'd hate for someone to get caught unawares at the airport by something like this.

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Anybody want to take bets on if they repeal this policy when the economy recovers and they start getting back their normal business?

It isn't that their business has dropped off much; planes are still full nearly to capacity. It is that it is costem them more per passenger to operate. Look at your own fuel bills in the last 6 months. Then figure in time lost due to bad weather, wholesale cancellations of flights at the last minute due to that weather. You still are paying for that aircraft, and every minute that it isn't moving in the air is money lost; and you are paying for the aircrews and ground staff, whether or not you are flying.

And people don't travel by air as simply as they used to; a businessman might have a suitcase or something to hold a spare suit and jacket, and his briefcase. Today the typical traveller is part of a family, and everyone packs as though going on safari. I've seen folks with 2 or 3 kids in tow, and all the "kid accessories" practically require a convoy: rediculous strollers or baby carriages made on the scale of a Humvee, and yet touted as "Carry-On", occupying too many of the over-head bins for what should be light stuff, briefcases or overnight fly-away kit bags.

Now, to load luggage on an aircraft, requires at least 3 people, sometimes 4, where it used to require only 2 (at least one has to be in the cargo hold, the others load the conveyor); this adds to personnel costs, unless you wish to scrimp on baggage handlers, and it takes twice as long to load/unload a bird.

BAck in the '50's, when air travel was primarily businessmen and very well-heeled tourists, you were given a weight allocation, and each bage and case was weighed, and you paid so much if you went over that allocation. This is just a more practical return to that sort of limiting system.

I don't think that airline operations will ever again be as profitable as they were, up through the late '70's. The whole system and process of air transport is on a downward spiral of satisfaction, as costs go up and convenience and utility fall.

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I can see but that one glaring error to their logic...people that would normally check 2 bags and carry on nothing, will now check one and carry-on one, leading to more congestion in the cabin.

They are using the cost of fuel to support this, but don't seem to be as concerned about weight as they are number of bags. The baggage handlers I am sure would rather move 2 small suitcases than one big heavy one any day.

I just started adding new dividers to my action packer tub to fit more in... I just hope they don't change the size rules to exclude our tubs. That would kinda suck.

Jeefers

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Actually, you raise an interesting question. What if one bag is checked, but the plane's overhead bins are full and a second bag has to be gate-checked? I think I'll call US Airways and find out.

*dialdialdial*

Well, it seems that a gate-checked bag will not incur the additional expense. I think it's going to be an interesting case the first time someone tries to bring a steamer trunk onto a plane and then asks to check it at the gate.

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Perhaps they'll only allow carry-on sized bags through security and if the bins are full, they'll simply check it at the gate then.

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Spirit charges per bag. If you attempt to bring something too big as carry-on, you usually get thru the gate with it. But if the bins are full, they measure it against the size check. If it passes, they gate check it at no charge. If it's too big, you get the bag charge.

Other airlines' mileage may vary.

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Something to think about guys is that Amtrack will allow up to 3 checked bags per passenger for no extra charge, and yes, Pittsburgh is a checked bags station. I had no trouble bringing 2 fursuits and my personal clothing from Milwaukee 2 years ago. besides, Amtrack is a great way to go to see the country if you got the time!

Chanur

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