I'm sorry, everyone.
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"One of the several artists in the Freaks! Movement - that's what I am!" Location: Huntington Beach, California
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I'm sorry, but I deleted my forum thread, "A Cool Poll for Furries" before to much controversy arose over it. But, I do admit that I am Professor Rigeli. It's only a pen name. The word "Professor" acknowledges my intelligence and doesn't necessarily mean that I am a real professor (although I'd be one in the old sense of the word). The name "Rigeli" is the star Rigel with an "i" added to end of it. I wanted a cool name to go with the title of my novel. It was also my stepdad's idea to make the blog and inform mainstream people about furry hate, a best-laid scheme of mice and men. I deleted the blog now seeing that it has no purpose on the Internet, only to attract furries and ruffle their tails. On behalf of my furry friends, I apologize for deleting the forum thread about Professor Rigeli's/my poll for furries. This whole furry hate is disturbing and enigmatic to me and I regret having come across, by coincidence, how widespread it became since AC 2007; people kept trolling online and shouting 'death' at anything animalistic and standing on its hind legs and I'm unsure whether or not they are serious because-- I must hold my tongue now. I must hold my tongue. I like furries a lot... but do they like me? |

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Location: Rochester,NY,United States
I like you, and I like the poll when it was on FA. You have to be pretty smart to come up with something like this. I haven't been a furry for long, but I got my first furry hater on You Tube last week and this jerk left me a rude comment on my userpage on You Tube. I deleted it and blocked him. Before so I gave him a few choice words, no swearing or negativity though. I just gave him a piece of my mind and told him " What are you scared of".
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When you think of trolls, think of it in generalisation. Trolls exist because they care about nothing more than to cause good people torment and suffering for their own entertainment. Oftentimes, they're like lost puppies without a leash to guide them.
Trolls go far beyond the realm of furries.
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The poll was pretty off-base and possibly more damaging than good, honestly.
Especially the AIDS question.
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Let me give you a quick primer in what's up here:
Furry hatred isn't a big deal. The people who primarily bash on furs also harass the families of kids who have died in stupid accidents and post fake bomb threats online to get attention. The reason they do it is because it gets attention. Other people do it in a lighthearted manner: for example, we're weird. There's no denying that. It's fun to poke fun at it sometimes.
The bottom line is the internet is a much more comfortable place for people to yell and be rude and angry. Rather than care, just ignore it. I guarantee you 99.9 percent of those people wouldn't actually make an effort to do anything in real life that would in the remotest way harm anyone because they're scared crapless. They're not confident, well-organised, dangerous human beings. They're just losers looking to make themselves feel better by picking on the weird quirks of others.
One of the main reasons we wind up the target of so much crap is because most furries seem to almost jump on the idea that there's some sort of furry holocaust going on and that everyone's hating on them for valid reasons and that their hobby is something that needs to be understood and completely 100% respected by the mainstream. That's not the case. Nothing is like that. Another thing important to keep in mind is that people who aren't actively involved in the trolling are either unaware of what furries are or simply don't care. Most of the public's reaction is one of bemusement or disbelief. When you go to a con, you don't see a lot of people around you laughing at you and stuff - the general reaction is interest and good-natured ribbing from people who aren't participating. On the whole, we're not that bad off. The things that you see that are terrible are extremes, and again, that's what you get from any group of people looking for attention. Most people don't believe that, and a good chat with any one of us would quickly dispell the 'sex crazed perverts' myth to anyone who actually cared enough to be affected by a movement to preserve our self-image.
In general, any effort to try and draw attention to 'persecution' isn't actually going to accomplish any good, it's simply going to serve to increase the trolling efforts in your direction, because obviously their attempts have already elicited a reaction from you. That's the long and short of it. If we were to unilaterally laugh off the bullshit, we'd be a lot happier and we'd get bothered a lot less.
I think we all understand what you were trying to do, and it was noble and all. Point is that it doesn't really help. It's been done a billion times before, it'll be done a billion times again. Just keep this in mind:
We ARE weird.
We DO do strange things on the weekends.
That's OKAY because everyone has their schtick.
Laugh WITH the crap and you'll be well off.
Try and act like we're in the midst of a lollercaust and you're just going to increase the drama you see, because people will level the trolling squarely at you.
I think that's about all I had to say, so.
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I think that what Protocollie is trying to say to the fandom in general is: "Grow up."
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Second.
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Third. Excellent post, Protocollie (a username that always makes me smile
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Now, if Osama suddenly pops up and says "Furries must die!", THAT'S when we need to be worried! D:
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Why thankyou.
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permalinkLocation: Somewhere over the rainbow in a land far far away
Wanna add abit into this part "Try and act like we're in the midst of a lollercaust and you're just going to increase the drama you see, because people will level the trolling squarely at you."
Thats right, I walked by a bunch of folks in buisness suits last year after they got one of the papers from the protesters, they looked at it, look at me seeing I had my anthrocon badge and goes "Here, enjoy this I got a laugh out of it you will to"
My best friend and his brothers came up, they found out I was furry due to my computer background, they got to talking about it to me and even one said they may be furry, when I brought up the bad side of things cause ... I was a little worried that he was joking with me, they didn't even know it.
Sure six people may not be alot of people, but a huge part of people ethier understand things, or really don't know about the bad parts of things or what not, its when furries go WTF, troll, we be in a "lollercaust" and start spewing this and that about, making videos and what not.. THEN people start going wtf, whats going on here, are these folk good or bad or what.. and then they go looking and may end up on the wrong site, then go oh their bad folks, or may end up on the right site and go oh right their ok...
so I think you got my point, least I hope you all did =o
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How do you know that? How do you know they couldn't be dangerous? Do you have proof?
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Um, do you have proof that they are?
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Maybe.
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Seriously?
Let me give you some blunt, whack-across-the-face advice.
We kinda know what we're doing. We've been furries for a long time, I recall you saying this is your first con, blah blah. And if you don't want to take my word for it? Kage's the chairman of the con, I'm not sure what Giza's title is, but he's no small deal either, plus he's on the security staff. Both of them are telling you it's not an issue. If there was a real threat of furry violence, you'd think that these people, charged with the safety and enjoyment of 3000-someodd fuzzballs in pittsburgh would be a bit worried. They're not, 'cause the threat doesn't really exist. Well, they're worried, but about other things. Maybe kidney stones.
Look: You can argue with us all you want, you can act know-it-allish? But then furries won't like you. We have experience with this stuff, it's painfully evident that it's not a real problem and that you -don't- have experience with it. Trust us for once, because walking into a group of people you don't know and saying you know better than they do what they've been doing for a lot longer is not a proper way to earn friends. That's it.
For the record, I really do have proof. Last year, we had protesters. They stood on a street corner across from the hotel and snickered. There was a greater threat to THEIR safety, in fact. A fursuiter walked over, took their sign and snapped it over his knee, then threw it away. That's it.
I've only heard of one case ever of actual violence against a furry which I've only ever read in an account on encyclopedia dramatica, so I'm not sure if it's true, but someone got hit on the side of the fursuit head with a boombox by an overweight nerd wearing an afro wig. They were shaken up and that was it. Considering the number of attacks versus the number of furry events, I think the chances of getting hurt as a furry are just as low as randomly on the street.
Me and my friend were thinking of doing a panel at AC called 'how to be socially acceptable' for certain people. More and more I am starting to think this is a good idea.
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Well, you would make it for ALL people. I'd certainly attend it.
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permalinkI wouldn't. There's no way I can ever be socially acceptable.
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permalinkReisling, isn't it?
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