ugh, gas prices near you

firehopper's picture
Location: Kutztown, PA

I'm kinda curious on how bad gas prices are for furs.. esp around pitsburg Smiling

around me, depending on what gas station you hit.. they are in the $3.59-3.75 range as of last night.

how about where you are?

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That sounds about right, I know down south diesel is around the $4.25 a gallon type range. It's rather amazing that they always jack up the prices for the summer then around the end of July the stuff goes down in price. Doing it just for the peak vacation times.

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Part of the reason gas prices are always higher in the summer is because of higher demand, and also because they change the gas formulation so it won't evaporate as readily in hot weather, so it's more expensive to produce. (Technical details here.)

However, I've read that the current upsurge is largely due to oil futures speculation, and increasing demand from other growing economies. U.S. consumption is down, but China's is increasing.

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You could always just look it up. I like the Gas Price Temperature Map, too.

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RappyRaptor's picture
Location: Dartmouth, Nova Scotia

Gas is regulated on a weekly basis here, currently, its $1.32 a liter.

firehopper's picture
Location: Kutztown, PA

wish ours was weekly.. it goes up 10 cents a day

Nevask's picture
"THE'RE MINE I TELL YOU!*shifts in to dark alley with box of coffee cakes*"

in NJ thats illegal, it can only go up 6 cents. uhh dumb gas prices...

firehopper's picture
Location: Kutztown, PA

oh lord, last night 3.55, this evening, 3.69, 14 cents in one day.
at this rate It could be up 20-30 cents since the last time I filled the tank.

Volknochi's picture
Location: Northern VA

Big Oil is itching to get it up past $4 before Memorial Day (or is it Labor Day?). That's why.

InsaneKangaroo's picture

3.94USD/Gallon here

I'm not even living in PA yet but...

Governor Rendell recently did the budget report, and one of the topics was gas prices. Pennsylvanians will even tually get lower gas prices and fuels than anyone else in the states. He is going to get passed the a bill so people who take natural resource fuels in PA, including ethanol resources, must sell a high certain percentage in PA. PA is a really nice place to live, there isn't a gigantic deficit like there are in other states, theres a surplus. I do plan on eventually moving there.

Oh, and the child universal health care is expanding, there is also a bill introduced from last year which will allow everyone to have affordable healthcare, even small business employees. They are considering raising cigarette taxes to pay for all this, and will be discussing other sources.

PA is a cool place where actual cool politics happen, unlike the state where I live even out rep is under criminal investigation... more are in my state than most I bet, heh.

DJMeowMix's picture
"Vitani is my name. Catch me, if you can!"

Location: Manahawkin, NJ

yeah gas prices shot way up the past week or so. it wasnt even up to $3 here. now it's around $3.30-$3.40 here in jersey.

-Vitani

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$3.49 per gallon. But, even though this hurts a bit, I wouldn't complain. Our European friends pay about 3 times as much for their petrol than we do.

All I can say is budget, don't floor it, and minimize your trips. Carpool if necessary.

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Location: Northern VA

$3.55 as of yesterday. Tho, they like to keep raising it up all the time. Sad

Quote:
don't floor it

Hear hear.

Also, you may want to do what I did, and install a vacuum gauge with the color bars in them.
http://www.performancecenter.com/product/partnumber_image_popup/3853

This'll help in showing you how much you're getting on the gas, and will teach you about pumping losses; i.e. - when going up a hill, downshift by 1 to 2 gears. You'll put less strain on the fuel delivery when having the engine being in a lower gear.

Also, make sure your system is properly tuned up and be sure to put in some fuel injector cleaner on every 1/4 tank. Smiling If I can get 20mpg (CTY/HWY combined) and 25mpg (HWY) on a 23-year-old sports car, I think others will be able to save fuel even easier. Eye-wink

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Location: Kutztown, PA

I get about 28mpg avg.. will see about how much I get on the trip.. It'll take me 1 tank down, and 1 tank back.. otherwise I only have to fill up once every 2 weeks when I use it for working. (15 miles to work one way)

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Its $3.50 here in south Texas. I was gonna complain about how high it is until I saw some people say it rose up to $4.20 a gallon at some locations. And to think summer has not even started yet.

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"Vitani is my name. Catch me, if you can!"

Location: Manahawkin, NJ

Yeah. that scares me. its now at 3.40 here and thats at the cheapest place. it rises more and more every day. i'm so scared for the summer prices. i live right next to Long Beach Island, NJ too. they are gonna be scary lol

-Vitani

Mikau's picture
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Location: Coquitlam, BC, Canada

Gas prices around Vancouver, BC, have shot up, so we're paying nearly $4 per gallon, at approximately $1.30 per litre. So we're suffering the same fate as well.

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Philly's about $3.85 and it sucks!

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3.59$ here in Boston. I expect tat to be in the high 80's by AC.

I'm still driving because flying SUCKS. 10 hours by car vs 6 at the airport/in the air? Taking the car, thanks.

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Have you considered the train instead? The New York to Pittsburgh leg is about 9 hours, so add in Boston to New York and its another 4. (and you can shave it down lower if you take the Acela)

That's long, but less fatiguing since you don't have to do the actual driving part.

Once you make it through Philly, everybody gets routed onto one train to Pittsburgh, which means there's so many furs on that one train, it's like you're hanging in the Zoo.

There are some crappy parts along the route, but there's also so really beautiful sections. Coming out of New York, you spend about 20 minutes rolling through acres and acres of salt grass rippling in the sea breeze with the birds flitting around over it.

(and you can handle your own luggage, which beats the heck out of airport)

firehopper's picture
Location: Kutztown, PA

thats a interesting idea. but I'm not in philly, I'm 2 hours NW of it.

its a possible idea for next year

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3.51 Where Im at

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It's still 9 cents per mile driven with PhillyCarShare. Yay for hybrids! Smiling

 
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Rover T. Mutt's picture
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Location: Fredericksburg, VA

hmm... averaging by mile, I get about 10 cents per mile (assuming $3.61 per gallon) in my Toyota Matrix. It's not even a hybrid.

-Rover T. Mutt

Gaius_Baltar's picture
"And now for something completely different."

Location: Montreal, Quebec, Canada

Up her in Montrel, Canada.
about 134.9Cents/Litre
That converts to about $5.12U.S/gallon

Nevask's picture
"THE'RE MINE I TELL YOU!*shifts in to dark alley with box of coffee cakes*"

$3.40 and rising! i can barely drive anywhere just because of the outrageous prices, not to mention i dont have a job. and its not like im not trying to get one, its just not many places are hiring, and i need a place that will be flexible with my college classes. oh the woes.

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Bio-diesel ftw.

Rideshare with 2+ folks if you can! That'll cut gas prices immensely and generally makes the car rides more tolerable :3 I've got to bring a boatload of fursuits, so I am toting only one person, but hopefully the gas won't cost too much(Coming up from DC, so its only a 4 hour ride).

Good luck to you long-haulers!

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$3.69/gallon here in Leesburg, VA. It's been going up steadily.

Glad I have a Prius. I typically get around 50 MPG. Smiling


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ih's picture
"Everything is perfect."

Location: Chester County, PA, North America

Tomorrow on friday, may second everyone has to boycott the gas stations. Don't buy any gas that day. Sorry for posting this so late but I just got a text from my uncle to forward this to everyone I know and it's gettin pretty big! Try and do it. I don't know much about it. I'll ask him about it soon and see why people are doing this and whats gonna happen.

Ron Bauerle's picture
Location: Erie, PA

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Um, don't bother:
http://www.snopes.com/politics/gasoline/nogas.asp
and
http://www.snopes.com/politics/gasoline/gasout.asp

Addendum: http://money.cnn.com/2008/05/01/news/international/usgas_price/index.htm
U.S. gas: So cheap it hurts
Relatively low taxes have kept pump prices far below most other developed nations, which some say is precisely why the current runup is so painful.

Ron

Exkhaniber's picture

I haven't bought a gallon of gasoline...ever. I walk, I bicycle, I take the bus. I have a very efficient life and enjoy the immense amount of freedom I enjoy without an automobile. Frankly, there's too little inconvenience in not buying a car to justify buying one. I live in an area and with a lifestyle that does not require a car. And I know this is not possible for many people, but every bit helps. My demand for petrol is *zero*.

Imagine the drop in demand if people didn't waste gasoline all the time. I see people get in their SUV's on bright and sunny days just so they can quite literally go around the corner to their neighbor's house for lunch. It's sad.

That is not to say I'm not still paying for it though. This entire country runs on it. So much so that the prices of food skyrockets because the stuff needs to be trucked or flown to three dozen places before it reaches the supermarket in the first place.

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Location: Montreal, Quebec, Canada

Well actually you also have Bush to blame for the skyrocketing foor prices, seeing as he's now giving farmers 51cent subcidies for every single gallon of corn ethanol they help produce, which is more than enough to push farmers to switch most of their crops to make corn ethanol, which means less wheat and other foods produced; thus forcin the prices up a lot to futily try to lower demand down to what they are producing, but seeing as you can't decide "I'm can't afford food and all thos other stuff. I'll only eat once every two days then", Demand barely changes, thus forcing the prices up even more.
Yet Corn Ethanol gives 30% less energy per gallon than gas, and only gives back 25% more energy than it takes to produce it, compared to Brazilian Sugar-Cane ehtanol which gives back 90% more energy than what is put in to make it, and actually burns a lot claner and more efficient, but Bush decided to up a nearly 60cent/gallon tarrif on it, forcing it out of the market. [/rant]

Volknochi's picture
Location: Northern VA

Amazingly, what some people fail to realize is that buying a Hybrid nowadays is really not even worth it. Some may say "I'm making this much MPG!" Okay, that's fine and dandy, but how much are you paying per month on that car's payment? And, how much is your full coverage insurance per month on that car? Now, add in how much you're filling up per month.

For example, I'll use a fully loaded '08 Prius Touring Edition, MSRP is $24,605. Say you have good credit and you choose to buy the car on a 60-month payment plan, APR 9.3. Your monthly payment on the car alone would be roughly $514. Then insurance on the car per month could be about (wild stab) $200. So, that's $714 a month you're shelling out on the car, just so you can save at the pump. It will take you a long, long time to make up the difference. Average 50mpg on the Prius, at 20 miles one way to work, 5 days a week, that's 200 miles. So, that's 4 gallons of fuel per week. With fuel at (rough average) $3.55, you're spending $14.20 a week. So, $56.80 week (this is all a rough average to give a general idea). In the end, you're paying $770.80 a month in order to save fuel.

Versus say my car. I paid it in full at $1500. I spend $30 a week filling it up (8 gallons or so are wasted at 20mpg combined cty/hwy). So, I end up paying only $120 a month. (Insurance is only $33/mth). So, I spend $153 a month total. That's a difference of $617.80! Jawdropping! Imagine what you can get with that kind of money. Smiling Or, even save it. Eye-wink

While I love the technology of a hybrid, the cost-benefit ratio doesn't justify enough in the end for me to have one. And, as Gaitus said, the E85 fuel that is running around also isn't that beneficial. The energy it produces compared to what it takes to make it, right now, until they master hydrogen powered cars, we're still better off using fossil fuels. And, all of this I have learned from reading many articles of Motor Trend. Smiling

So, really, it seems the only one who is benefiting from the gas crunch and confusion is Exh, however I could never go without my car. Eye-wink Wankel powered cars are simply worth the fuel. *L*

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To nitpick your calculations: The national average for miles driven is approximately 13,000 miles per year, about 250 per week for most folks. Also, you're neglecting to include in your calculations is the higher maintenance cost of a used car; over the course of a typical year, you will need to make a lot more repairs to an out-of warranty, well-used car than you will for a new, in-warranty car. In addition, you're citing the 'fully loaded touring edition' of the Prius instead of the basic; Plugging numbers in for that at a similar APR I get $454 a month for 60 months, not $514. All of these narrow the financial 'advantage'.

(No longer an advantage is the tax credit on Priuses; there remains a hybrid credit on vehicles from Ford, GM, Nissan, and Honda.)

Mind, for you and others, it's probably financially better to maintain their current car than to purchase a new car. It's almost always the case that used cars are cheaper in Total Operating Costs, even given high fuel price considerations. Modern cars last longer as well- the average age of a car has moved to over nine years recently, from seven in the 80's and eight in the 90's. When people do buy new cars, though- and someone has to- I feel MPG can and should be a solid consideration, and hybrids do deliver that.

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Volknochi's picture
Location: Northern VA

Well, I go by a monthly basis for me to make it easier. And, actually, a lot of times, an older car isn't that bad to maintenance. Either that or I'm VERY lucky. ^_^ My 23-year-old car hasn't needed any special maintenance done to it for this past year and a half. Woot! Only the oil change every 4 months (synthetic).

And, yeah, I know I used the fully loaded Prius, I just went for a roundabout rough average (if you noticed, I used the word 'rough' alot) on what kind of Prius one would get. Really, I chose the most expensive one to show.

And, actually, not all hybrids deliver MPG. The new Lexus hybrid (that expensive one) actually delivers LESS than it's fossil-fuel counterpart. Learned that from an article in Motor Trend a couple months ago. But, apparently they sell like hot-cakes because it's a Lexus. Go figure on the name brand. Eye-wink

I'm just a frugal person and living paycheck to paycheck like everyone else. So, money is just a high priority to me, not to mention the Con is coming up. Smiling And, I need to pay off the rest of my fursuit. >_< *L*

But, your input is well noted and received. Smiling

firehopper's picture
Location: Kutztown, PA

new update, they actually fell 4 cents in the past few days, down to 3.55 a gallon atm

ledgema's picture
Location: Oakville, Ontario, Canada

Gas for the Toronto area is hovering around 120.2 cents per litre.

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fiddle dee dee! I just found out today the price rose about a dime. It makes me so mad that I wont be able to get that can opener sooner then I wanted.

Its times like these I wish I could live like Exkhaniber and just ride my bike, walk, or even take public transportation then just drive. Its not much of a option as #1 I live on the outskirts of town in the suburbs away from most of the action, and #2 Id rather not be sweating my ass off, especially during the summer where daytime temperatures can sour into the mid 100s. That is why I highly support carpooling.

firehopper's picture
Location: Kutztown, PA

right now I'm lookin to pick up a used Moped, this one will need some work. so it's going to be a project. It'll be a fun project even if I dun end up using it for work.

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Location: Northern VA

*L* I've actually seen that before, and another that has said:
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Location: Richmond, Virginia

I'm running premium and when I got gas today it was $3.95 a gallon I believe. Not a whole lot I can do so I just continue on.

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Oof, your car is turbo/supercharged? Or just weird? I have to run premium in my Land Rover (which, thankfully, is not my daily driver, or close to it), it specifically wants at least 91 octane fuel, and runs like utter crap on anything less

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It is turbocharged. ^_^ I drive an '06 WRX as a daily driver.

I consistently see around 25 MPG in my back and forth to work. On the drive to AC I'm hoping to see 27-28 MPG depending on the temperature outside. Shouldn't be too fund intensive to do the drive.

I haven't tried running anything less than 93 octane in it. I read an article somewhere saying that you could step down a grade to see if the extra price for the higher grade could be justified. There would be a performance and MPG loss with the lower grade as expected. Some formulas were included to figure it out. I'd like to do more research before experimenting though.

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Location: Northern VA

Cars that call for such an octane require it. Anything lower and you may experience knock and ping. Which is really the same way as people "claiming" they get better performance by sticking in Mid and Premium in a car that requires Regular. They're just wasting money for no reason. With your car being turbocharged, you can go lower grade fuel, however you will lose performance and MPG will suffer. Plus, I'd never do such a thing just because I don't want pre-detonation happening. Thankfully, my little sports car does a fine job with only regular. Smiling

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Location: Richmond, Virginia

Yep. Exactly why I haven't run a lower octane than 93. If you couldn't get 93 octane and had to run something lower, hopefully the knock sensor would pick up the knock and retard the timing to compensate.

I have seen what prolonged pre-detonation can do to some internal components. I wish I'd kept the plugs from my old truck. The electrodes were almost completely eroded away.

Volknochi's picture
Location: Northern VA

Amazingly, there is a car out there right now (for the life of me I cannot remember >_<) but I read it in Motor Trend and its computer can tell what grade of fuel you have placed in it and it will change the engine parameters accordingly. Which, I feel, is actually kinda cool. Smiling Now, if I can only remember what car (or cars?) have that ability...

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rar...
Dutchess County NY
as of this morning: $3.89-$3.91

firehopper's picture
Location: Kutztown, PA

ack, $3.75 a gallon last night.

DJMeowMix's picture
"Vitani is my name. Catch me, if you can!"

Location: Manahawkin, NJ

gas went up to 3.55 here (cheapest place). i wish i could just walk everywhere.

-Vitani

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