Are you allowed to bring energy drinks and other high caffiene food?

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DerickTheGreat's picture
"Super PsychoPathic Music Nerd/ Anthro art Fan"

Location: north royalton, Ohio

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As I want to stay up all he time in the con. No sleep! Fnord

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Protocollie's picture
"Con Chair. (That means you're not allowed to move me.)"

Location: Philadelphia, PA

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Yeah, but you will need to wait a year to do it! Con's over, man!

iSKUNK's picture
Location: Cambridge, MA

No one's going to stop you, but be careful---that's the only body you've got, y'know?

(I was with a gentleman who kept running by the Quik-E-Mart outside the hotel for Bawls, and then when that closed, to the hotel gift shop for Red Bull... it wasn't pretty :-]

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DerickTheGreat's picture
"Super PsychoPathic Music Nerd/ Anthro art Fan"

Location: north royalton, Ohio

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I might come next year, cuz then Ill have a car! I just wanted to know, because Caffiene calms me down. It makes me mellow. I wonder If they ever have like a techno group or a band playing. I feel they should.

Protocollie's picture
"Con Chair. (That means you're not allowed to move me.)"

Location: Philadelphia, PA

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We have DJs!

DerickTheGreat's picture
"Super PsychoPathic Music Nerd/ Anthro art Fan"

Location: north royalton, Ohio

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i know, I was just wondering, because it would seem like a cool change of style. Jus6t a recommendation from a music geek.

Recherei's picture
Location: New Jersey

Don't you mean DT's?

Protocollie's picture
"Con Chair. (That means you're not allowed to move me.)"

Location: Philadelphia, PA

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...no?

Volknochi's picture
Location: Northern VA

Gee, I wonder who else was with that Bawls-drinking fellow? Eye-wink

Chiaroscuro's picture
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Sleep is a good thing to try and get. Some Anthrocon I might get some myself!

To note, outside food and drink is not permitted in the DLCC, especially in the Dealer's room. Other than that, highly caffeinated product is okay. Smiling

Sgt Steve's picture
"When the sh*t hits the fan, we're the first blade."

Location: 12 scenic miles from Hell

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Several folks who followed this philosophy wound up going to the emergency room. They probably missed more of Anthrocon than they saved by not sleeping, and the bills are going to be horrendous.

DerickTheGreat's picture
"Super PsychoPathic Music Nerd/ Anthro art Fan"

Location: north royalton, Ohio

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Im a caffiene addict... yeah, I got a problem with that.

InsaneKangaroo's picture
"iRoo - Powered By Insanity"

Location: Alaska

Coffee is bad for you if you're going to drink it that much to stay up.

I use Provigil for the list below:
1) ADD
2) Staying alert/up
3) extended days without sleep

A warning though if you're going to stay up regardless of method, what you spend you need to regain. You're spending your body's energy and building up various chemicals like serotonin in your body. The body not only heals, but neutralizes various chemicals during sleep.

I can stay up on Provigil without feeling ill for about 3-4 days, but after that I take a very long nap. After the nap, its like having jet lag for a few days.

I don't drink coffee anymore, nor do I ever want to drink coffee. The side effects of coffee are horrendous compared to Provigil, which is probably why I'd recommend anyone who uses coffee a great deal to switch to a different drug which isn't caffeine in coffee.

The side effects from provigil which I've personally had effects from include vertigo for the first 6 hours when I started and lasted about 2 hours, that is pretty much it.

Many truckers use Provigil if they're smart to stay up, it really is one best drugs, ESPECIALLY compared to coffee.

Drinking too much coffee causes heart burn, indigestion issues, gas issues, makes you feel bad, makes your joints stiff, and there are probably more side effects from coffee.

Would I recommend coffee for anyone trying to stay up a long period of time, Roo no!

charlieg's picture
Location: Alexandria, VA

In fairness, please Google on Provigil.

Please note that it is a prescription drug and cannot be (legally) shared with others. There are possible side effects with other conditions. Many people with high blood pressure go undiagnosed as there are no visible symptoms. It can even impact hormonal birth control.

It's much safer to follow the 8:2:1 rule: 8 hours sleep, 2 meals, one bath/shower every 24 hours.

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Alondro's picture
"Lions are lazy, very lazy. However, never tell one that to its face, lest you be sliced like bacon."

Location: NJ

As noted frequently, I'm a lab technician/slave. The approximately 5 hours of sleep I got each night at the convention was more than I usually get when working. I also got to shower every night too! I felt more refreshed and energetic than I have the rest of the year. Sticking out tongue

InsaneKangaroo's picture
"iRoo - Powered By Insanity"

Location: Alaska

I keep telling people all they need is 4-5 hours of sleep, and they all disagree with me. Sad

I don't know why, I guess they just like to be lazy. I prefer to be productive and work until I drop on my bed.

Provigil isn't for everyone, but it is a good drug which IMO is much better than coffee. Coffee has be just as dangerous far as blood pressure, increase of stress, and other side effects many of you know. Provigil is used by college students as well as a substitute for coffee for those long nights of study. Some people will complain it is not fair, well it IS fair. Coffee is a drug too you stupid people who make the comments! Provigil can be prescribed for being more alert, its not like there are rules following the prescription of Provigil, it has off-label use. INCLUDING the use for pilots, truckers, people who take long drives, studying, air traffic control, and has many other uses in positions which require long shifts and or being more alert.

I will say this, Provigil can be expensive. Sad

DerickTheGreat's picture
"Super PsychoPathic Music Nerd/ Anthro art Fan"

Location: north royalton, Ohio

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I Am kinda broke rightr now, mainly cause the antibiotics im taking, MinoCycline, for, oh joy, MRSA.

charlieg's picture
Location: Alexandria, VA

Despite your personal metabolism, some people need more than 4-5 hours of sleep. Some of us have jobs where we are supposed to be at a job on a regular schedule: working for 72-96 hours straight is not an option for them, myself included.

I did not deny that coffee (more accurately) contains the drug caffeine. I personally don't drink it: I can't stand the taste. As far as I can see, every bad effect of caffeine is also present in Provigil, along with others.

Despite your apparent claims to the contrary, Provigil remains a prescription drug. To use it for any reason without a valid prescription is illegal. Period. I would not feel very safe in an aircraft piloted by a person who was on their 96th hour of being awake, Provigil or not. The same with being on the road with a trucker in the same condition. It's not merely a matter of what you want to do; the safety of others has to be considered.

Doctors who prescribe Provigil (or any prescription drug) for "off-label" usage may be violating the most basic portion of the Hippocratic Oath: "Primum, non nocere." In English, "First, do no harm."

Exkhaniber's picture

You know, certainly from the previous posts and threads you've posted I know the title "insane" certainly fits. And to some degree, I think that one should keep that in mind when reading your posts and give you a bit of leeway on the very strange to outright psychotic things you post.

But I can't help but leaving a comment here because A: I'm bored; and B: I might actually have a bit of useful information for this one.

I worked with a few people who had very strange sleeping habits. One of which was a man who would only sleep 1-2 hours a shot, but divy up the time in the day to eventually get between 6 to 8 hours in any given 24-hour period. From what he told me, it was most likely a genetic "difference" (not going to say defect or "glitch" since a different habit does not constitute a problem) since the rest of his immediate family slept normal hours in one set shot like the rest of us it couldn't be a "nurtured" trait.

He was different though. Always was.

So he would sleep and be active in strange ways that would probably cripple normal people. But his body worked with it, and he worked around it. Other people I know sleep between 8-10 hours to feel normal, others are up and peppy with just 6.

The point is that it is generally up to the individual on how and how much they sleep. While your habits may be fine for you (for now, but I'll get to that next), it most certainly does not work for everyone else. And while I'm one of the most arrogant people I know, even I wouldn't step in and say that everyone can or should sleep and be active on my timetable. To think that everyone else CAN function like that is too far of a stretch.

Now I'm going to take a moment to remind you of something. While I'm aware we live in a chemical world, there are consequences for indulging in chemical replacements to normal body functions. Even if those consequences are not readily apparent now, they may become very serious problems later on in life. Case in point: my mate in his youth used to jump off of the roof of his house...a lot. Impressed his friends very much. No harm, no foul right? Today his knees are completely shot, as is his back.

So that I'm not accused of being subtle, I'm going to spell out my point. Taking chemicals, especially prescription-strength ones, to replace hours of sleep may seem like fun now. But wait until you hit 40 and suddenly your brain almost completely shuts down. It's not going to sound like a lot of fun then. And while that may sound like an extreme example, it is very possible. Your brain needs shutdown time every day to stay fresh and orderly. Of all things, you really do NOT want to screw up your brain. They have hip replacement joints, they do not yet have replacement brains.

If you can live off of a few hours of sleep and honestly feel completely refreshed, then so be it. Other people need more sleep though. And if you have to take a chemical to override your brain's signal to you that you need to sleep, then that's wandering into very dangerous territory.

-There is no truth

InsaneKangaroo's picture
"iRoo - Powered By Insanity"

Location: Alaska

Sad I always thought of sleeping requirements as a nurtured thing. guess like metabolisms, sleep requirements and how a specific person's body works may also have some deciding factors.

o.0 What psychotic things do I post?

40 years of coffee vs 40 years of Provigil, I think I'll take the Provigil(prescription of course).

Coffee does make me feel "normal" which is why I was always drinking coffee every day. I could give the long explanation of why, but lets just say there are receptors, like spark plugs, in the brain which weren't getting enough fuel to fire. Coffee helped with this, but there were side effects... a crash n burn feeling just as if a person would take in sugar. Provigil allows me to take how much I need depending on a day to stay up, alert, and less.. Smiling well.. I've severe ADD. I could drink a whole pot of coffee and still sleep, because the coffee would make me feel "normal". Now, just because I sometimes use Provigil, which the doctor knows I do, to a certain extend if I need to stay up an extra 3-6 hours I will take just enough. There are probably side effects which are similar to coffee, but I still think coffee has added side effects like heart burn.

To an earlier reply from someone else, in no way do I support taking Provigil illegally. The medication is expensive WITH a prescription, I think its like 90 bucks a month or something outrageous for the amount I must take.

Yes yes, exercise and a good diet is a reply from some, well... you should speak to some furs which know me... Even when I don't take Provigil for week(s), sometimes I just get tired of feeling "normal"(very common), I'll be very active running just miles for the fun of it. After I get done with my run and I look very worn out, I'll still stand and talk with people. People will ask me, "Aren't you tired, would you like to sit down?", which I reassure them I'm fine and I prefer to stand.

Exkhaniber's picture

I think coffee tastes great, when properly milked and sugared. Possibly creamed and sugared. But I don't like ingesting caffiene because I am especially susceptible to becoming quite hyper. So I drink decaf.

-There is no truth

Zeke Shadowfyre's picture
"Free Lulz here! =>"

Location: Norfolk Virginia

There is another energy drink that only 7-eleven carries which is called Spike.
But unfortunately it is like buying cigarettes: only;y people 18 or older can purchase it.

Depending on you bodyweight and chemical tolerance it can keep you up for a good 12 hours straight, or a few days. It helped me on those days of cramming and early mornings when I needed a caffeine kick.

But as an advisement, fursuiters cannot drink it. Because of the amount of caffeine in it, Spike will speed up your metabolism and cause you to create more heat.

Volknochi's picture
Location: Northern VA

Coffee and energy drinks are both bad for a "boost of energy" to stay awake and the like, because it will leave you with an energy crash, not to mention how it overloads your system with sugar/caffeine/etc. The best thing one can take? A bottle of Mountain Dew, even include a Snickers bar with it. It'll stay with you all day. Smiling

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