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Darktiger's picture
"Other than that Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"

Location: Louisville, KY

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Hello all,

So, this will be my first con in a fursuit, full suit. I know the tips about carbing up and drinking a lot of water. I was wondering if any one had any other tips for me. Specially any hazards that I should be aware of, besides limited vision.

Thanks in advance!

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Exkhaniber's picture

I know of a hazard you should watch out for. Touchey-feely furfans swarming you!

...I may or may not be relating this information to you as myself being part of the problem...>.>

There is no truth

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Location: Dartmouth, Nova Scotia

Only thing he has to worry about from you is being hassled by you to have your picture taken with him Eye-wink

Darktiger's picture
"Other than that Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"

Location: Louisville, KY

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....<.<

>.>....

*You didn't see anything*

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As colorfully as Exkhaniber put it, there is a concern there, not so much with individuals but with crowds.

It is advisable to have a non-fursuiting friend go out with you to act as a spotter. It can be a lifesaver if there is someone behind you that you do not see, and you are about to back into them. There are also thousands of tripping hazards that your limited field of vision may render even more...er, hazardous.

We will have a green room, the "Headless Lounge", in the Convention Center, and likely one in the hotel as well. You should be certain to know where these are, so if you need to pop out of sight to cool off for a few minutes you know where to go.

We ask people to give priority on the elevators to fursuiters, but not everyone at the convention is so polite, much to our regret, so do not count on being able to dash up to your room on short notice.

Darktiger's picture
"Other than that Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"

Location: Louisville, KY

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Yeah. I was planning on having one of my friends going with me to be my 'spotter', and would my spotter be able to go into the headless room with me? I didn't know if it was a really strict rule about non-suits going in there.

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I think that it's perfectly all right to have your spotter go in with you. Of course, if the room is starting to get crowded, the spotter may wish to step out once he or she has helped you off with your head.

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You may want to attend a coupole of panels that may help you. If you've not been in full suit before, look into one of the intro performance panels. They can give you some good tips on basic movement and getting familair with the limitations of your costume.

Also look into the "So This is Your First Con" panel. Granted you may have been to AC before, but there is a portion that usually deals with fursuiters. It'll help you get perspective from in and out of suit (you can see what others are going to be made aware of an apply it to your own situation).

Nevask's picture
"can i has a birthday present at AC? "

thats good to kno. cuz its my first time suiting as well. this will defeninatly help me feel a little more con orentited, especailly since this is my first con ever.^w^

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fel's picture
"Im a six toed folf!!! ^^"

Location: DeLancey, New York

thankees ^^ im not sure if i can go yet, but i want to... and ill be suiting as well. making my own too... this info is going to come in handy. thanks again

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DarkWulf's picture

*jumps into the thread* I as well am a Furst time Full suiter.. going ot be attending AC in my Full suit that just got done... I love the information your giving here, it helps me out a lot, I wore a partial last year but this is completly different im sure... I remember it was way hot in the partial, i cant imagin what its going to be like in a full suit...

well is there anything else i should know about Suiting besides the stuff you already mentioned?

ohh and this is what it turned out like so you may see me at AC

http://img158.imageshack.us/img158/4176/dwheadbflyxe4.jpg

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Here's a few tips for fursuiters:
Its hot. Very, very hot. And long. You'll probobly be in suit for an hour, maybe more, maybe less.

Drink water, every 15 minutes, minimum. You'll get thirsty, so you shouldn't need a watch.
BEFORE you suit, eat a trail mix bar or something grainy. It won't sit heavy in your stomache(Anything that does will make you feel ill), and will prevent you from having 30 minute munchies(30 minutes in suit without eating anything beforehand is torture. I keep thinking about steak).
Check your suit quickly for rips, burst seams or tears before and after(Mirror) you put it on. These can ruin a performance.
Make sure you're wearing a THIN layer of clothign underneath, to absorb sweat(Most folks get a set of underarmour or dive-skins).
Ensure you know WHERE the lounge is BEFORE you get in suit, or immediately after you get in, in case you need a refuge.

AFTER getting out of suit, you should IMMEDIATELY(In teh case of most suits), turn it inside out(if possible) and spray that sumbich down with endbac(a powerful antibacterial spray).
If you have a cooling fan, you should put that in front of your suit to help it dry. be sure to spray your feet(Stinkies!), hands and head, also(Not YOURS, the suits!)

Thats all I have.

Lascivus_Lutra's picture
Location: Amherst, Ohio

agreed Smiling

you want your suit to be remembered for its performance and looks, not for its aroma!

Vulpes Rex's picture
"Vulpine fortunes are precarious; folk either want to build monuments to us, or hang us."

Location: Roseville, CA, USA

1) Before you put on the suit, make a point to walk all over the convention area, and get "the lay of the land" settled in your mind. Does your suit have a tail or wings? Walk about as though you have a natural tail and wings, and make notes of what you can see when looking up, and how much room there is to pass or close a door behind you. You won't be able to do this when you actually have the suit on, and would be otherwise distracted, anyway.

2) You are new to this? Pretend that you are a SCUBA diver! You have only so much air to breathe, only so much time to get where you wish to go, do what you wish to do, and return - and don't forget pausing to "decompress" along the way back!

This means - pacing out the distances, keping track of how long it takes to get from point A to point B, with your refuge/safe point being the "Headless Lounge". Try to learn the layout of the place, know where the escalators are, any steps, (in)conveniently-placed wastebaskets or benches (which you won't see in-suit), a dozen different things that we normally see and dodge around without any conscious thought given to the matter.

The point is: 1) You have to think and make decisions differently when wearing the suit, and 2) You have to do it with information that you have collected or observed beforehand, because of limited vision, hearing, and tactile senses.

...And still take a "spotter", who's voice you can recognise while in the suit. Your spotter can also carry a sportsbottle full of water and with a long straw for you.

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Location: Jacksonville, Florida, USA

Great Tips. I'm hoping my feline friend can attend with me and be my spotter... if not, I'll have to go it alone. My suit does have decent vision, and I'm physically fit enough to handle the high-temps. (Native Floridian Wolf).

I'll get a better feel for it this month at our local JaxFurs Picnic... Fursuiting on the beach.... Oh my....

Sookta's picture
"Day I got cookie. GNOM."

Location: Albany, NY/Burlington, VT

I think that one of the biggest things that is often overlooked is the fact that drinking cold water during all the physical activity of fursuiting is incredibly dangerous because it can actually put your body into shock. If all that is available is cold water, make sure that you take small sips. Another good habit to get into is to drink lots of water before the con to flush your system out and get hydrated. Most of the fluid you will have to replace will come out as sweat during the con, so remember to drink lots of water and try to shower at least once a day!

Know your limit! Know when it's time to take a break from suiting to cool down. Remember, if anything happens to you while you're in suit, it's very likely that the paramedics will have to cut your suit off of you (which is another reason you should wear something underneath it).

A little more on the performance side, be alive! Keep your head moving so that you don't look like a statue (this also helps with your vision, as you can see more of your surroundings if you keep changing your field of vision). Everything that you do in suit should be ten times what you would do out of suit. No one can see your face, so any facial expressions you make are worthless, but this makes your body language exponentially important.

As mentioned before, spraying the inside of your suit with something like Febreeze helps kill the sweaty smell somewhat, but wait until after the con to do the inside of your head! The chemicals in some products can be potentially hazardous for several days after spraying them. Also, another way to keep your suit dry(ish) is to bring along some sort of fan to blow air through your suit when you're not wearing it.

And have fun! :3

Sylverwolfe - Deleted's picture

Dark Tiger,
Wearing a fursuit for long periods of time is surprisingly very physically demanding. I suggest lots of rest, which is nigh near to impossible while there! Vitamins. Lots of water. not gatorade, not soda, WATER and eat well. You will be physically exhausted when you take it off at night too. You might do as UnkleKage says, take a friend to spot you. If you are going with another suiter then you too should alternate whenever you are in suit. It worked for me and Deviant_Coyote.

DO NOT drink much alcohol the night before you suit. You will dehydrate and can pass out. This has happened to a friend. He was getting weak-kneed and passed out in suit. Luckily I am large and strong enough, I picked him up, in his suit, and carried him back to our hotel room, removed his head and got him some water.

This alcohol thing happened to me at my friend's New Year's Masquerade Party. I had two Champagnes but since I had been in suit sweating all night, the punch that the alcohol packed was far worse. And the hang-over the next day was FEROCIOUS!

That brings me to another point. Do not wear the suit all day. Unless you have been made tough by sitting in a sauna for long periods of time or you have a cool vest, it is a bad idea. And use the "Headless lounge" frequently. It is better to have water and sit near a fan when you need to.

As far as what to eat...I don't know. I guess since it is physically straining, like any physical activity, preparing like you are going to compete in a sports event might be a good idea.

Also build up your stamina a bit by wearing the suit around your house/apartment before you go up. Learn it. Learn your limits, learn your blindspots and KNOW your suit well before going to convention.

I hope this helps.

Sylverwolfe
The Heavy Metal werewolfe

Bang your head!!! Metal Health will drive you mad!

DarkWulf's picture

This is all great stuff to learn about since this will be my first time in a Suit... I do have a question i want to through out here... is I have to Fly to PA on a Direct flight from SLC here... and I was wondering what I should do hor how i should pack my fursuit so It doesnt get ruined..... and Im afraid of loosing it along the flight... (it will be the loongest 3 hours of my life im sure) but I am wondering what I should pack it in... because i dont want it to get messed up during flight.. any suggestions?

Sookta's picture
"Day I got cookie. GNOM."

Location: Albany, NY/Burlington, VT

Most suits that I have seen come in rubbermaid bins. I acutally brought my suit to FWA in a large footlocker with latches, and then I duct taped the seams shut as extra protection. The TSA seemed to do a good job of re-applying the duct tape after they had inspected it (and they probably will inspect it). Definitely, worrying about the saftey of my suit is constantly on my mind. My biggest fear was that it would open up while it was on the tarmac and fall out all over the wet/snowy ground.

If you're really worried about the well being of your suit, I would say to pack it as a carry-on if at all possible (which I don't think it is for most suits o.o)

Also, another thing I don't think anyone mentioned was to bring an emergency sewing kit. It's incredibly important in order to make repairs in case anything rips or gets damaged. My kit includes a hot glue gun (and glue sticks), needles and thread, electrical wire (for the fan in my head), and several different sized scissors, and black acryilic paint (for touching up damaged claws). I also pack 1'x1' squares of fur just in case something needs to be replaced.

Sylverwolfe - Deleted's picture

My folks have one of those hard Samsonite Suitcases. I borrow theirs because despite my repeated dropping hints at one of my own, they have not gotten me one for B day or Christmas.

But a I recommend a hard suitcase, a trunk or a footlocker. Sure, you might have to spend more to send it, but it is piece of mind. (*EDIT* WOW! A Heavy metal grammatical slip up there!!!) I meant: Peace of Mind. The first spelling is an album by Iron Maiden!

Anyway:
I have to carry my Arend Studios, Husky suit. My Realms of Enchantment suit (Wolf suit) has too large of a head to carry it. I carry the head in a plastic bag as a carry-on. And Yes, I bite my nails about my suit making it there. But I am 6 ft. Weight 320 so the suit is too large to carry-on.

All I can tell you, is just ease back. There is not much choice in the matter.

Sylverwolfe
The Heavy Metal werewolfe

Bang your head!!! Metal Health will drive you mad!

DarkWulf's picture

that sounds like a good Idea... I weigh about 227 pounds and it is a full suit so I dont think a carry on would be optional.... unless I found out a way to get my suit into a backback.. Oo

but I think i will go with the rubber bin, with ductape... that sounds like a nice way to go... then again a hard suitcase might work just as wall... anyone know what one of those runs these days?

Sylverwolfe - Deleted's picture

Yeah you are a fairly sizable furry as well. I have no idea how much those cases cost! I wish I did! I would have one of my own. They are not so easy to get like the cases my parents have. I need to surf and look I suppose.

Whenever I go fursuiting I have my fursuits in a Rubbermaid "Roughneck" tote. That would do nicely for taking to a con, I suppose, but I would rather just shove it into my suitcase if it fits there, you know?

You can put it in a larger container you are just going to have to pay for it if the container exceeds a certain measurement. That is the only issue with that.

Sylverwolfe
The Heavy Metal werewolf

Bang your head!!! Metal Health will drive you mad!

Nevask's picture
"can i has a birthday present at AC? "

*pokes* good to see u again Silver! and i third on the water deal. if u dont drink enough or too little u can pass out, trust me i kno.

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Sylverwolfe - Deleted's picture

Why YES! Yes it is! I didn't know you were here Nevask! Nice to see you too.

Sylverwolfe
The Heavy Metal werewolfe

Bang your head!!! Metal Health will drive you mad!

Nevask's picture
"can i has a birthday present at AC? "

yup!^w^*huggles* and about the dehydration, i agree. if you dont drink enough or too little you will most likely pass out. i kno, cuz i was in marching band and we were in the momorial day prade and it was almost over, we were standing in an arc when a bunch of us started dropping like flies. i was the worst, with a heart rate of 52bpm.>__< so drink up, but do it in moderation!

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Location: West Sacramento, CA

I speak from experience when I say this.

PACE YOURSELF and wear the RIGHT clothing under the suit

1) Pace yourself means just that.. don't push yourself too far or too fast. You're going to be HOT in this thing by just STANDING there. Believe me I know this for a fact. And if you don't feel well.. don't suit! Trust me.. nothing is worse than sneezing inside a fursuit head.

2) right clothing under the suit. Best thing is a spandex unitard.. better is those shirts that you can get at target that are of lightweight material and that breathe pretty good. True story. I suited once in jeans and a shirt for 30 minutes and went into minor shock for it as I sweated EVERYTHING into my clothes and felt like crap.

Follow those rules and you'll be fine. See ya there. Eye-wink

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Something I would like to point out now that I've been suiting for a couple of months...

Just like with any physical excercise, you want to gradually build up to a point. I've been wearing my suit as much as I can, and gradually increasing the amount of time I spend in suit each time. By doing this, I'm building up an endurance to the heat. As a matter of fact, this past Saturday, I spent a combined 6 hours in suit. In FLORIDA. On the Beach. Then in the bowling alley.

I am up to being able to stay in suit for 2 and a half hours at a time, actively. (That means dancing, running around, chasing cars, etc.) However, I know my limits, and I can feel when it's time to sit down or even de-suit. I don't recommend that you try to push too hard, and strip down at the first sign of 'getting tired' or dizzyness. Everyone can understand your plight. Don't think that you're obligated to suit for the enjoyment of others at the risk of your own personal health.

Note: Swim trunks under a suit = major heat buildup in a bad way.

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ANd on this note, Since you did bring up what NOT to wear under it, What would be something nice to wear under a Full suit?

I was going to get a cold suit, but Looking at it now, my suit wouldnt zip up all the way and i would be SOL, so in my case, what would be something to wear under it?

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Cold suits and diveskins(Under armour) are popular and keep you cool.

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can you link me to where i could see them?

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DarkWulf's picture

wow, and that wouldnt be like super hot under the suit?

Mwuricon D Malamute's picture
Location: York, PA

I use "Underarmor Heat Gear" when I mountain bike and it sweats really well.

DarkWulf's picture

cool, so all i really need is like a dive skin and i should be Ok?

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Yea, man. It keeps the sweat off your suit, but it'll need a good washing in the shower after a full day of use(Ideally it should be washed after EVERY wear, but at a con you might wear a suit 3-4 times a day). Just shower it up in hot water, lather with soap, hang it and let dry in front of a fan or AC unit. After its totally dry, spray it down with end-bac. After each wear it should be sprayed down(and the inside of the suit) with end bac to prevent stinkyness.

DarkWulf's picture

Im glad i asked, now im going ot get one, Does it get hot wearing that under the suit at all (im sure it does but thought i would ask anyway)

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I wouldn't know :3 I have a different kind of suit(heavily foam padded), and there's no moving air in those, so they dont get hot at all.

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Location: Albany, NY/Burlington, VT

I've worn dive skins scuba diving, and they can get incredibly warm when you're not in the water. I've almost gotten sick just standing in the sun with one of them on, and that was on a cool day (albeit, it was a much thicker suit). They're made to keep you warm when you're under the water. If you're talking about something extremely thin, even like these 1MM dive skins, I'd still play it safe and go with under armor or a spandex unitard. I'd recommend something incredibly light, possibly something that wicks sweat away from the body, but definitely something that breathes. What it is from there is totally personal preference.

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SO what would be the best to get then, like a Dive skin or Under armor?

and if someone could leave a link for some under armor, that would be awsome^^

Sookta's picture
"Day I got cookie. GNOM."

Location: Albany, NY/Burlington, VT

http://www.dickssportinggoods.com/category/index.jsp?categoryId=2138916&cp=2138915

Lots of stuff here. Check under the HeatGear section for things that would be optimal for suiting.

You might be able to find some similar non-brand name stuff online or at stores like Wal-Mart or Marshalls, which would probably be cheaper, but certainly not as high quality.

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I'm a fan of Under Armor. I use it when I go shooting in the summer, (Last year I went out to Ohio for the national matches and when I shoot, I wear this huge thick jacket and a sweater. The temperatures got up to 115 degrees and with the under armor, it didn't feel hotter than 90 degrees.) You just need some air getting to it (A light breeze is sufficient)

DarkWulf's picture

well i broke down and bought a pair of Underarmor heat gear, top and bottom to wear under the suit, Im sure its better than wearing nothing

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Actaully, I've worn a lycra diveskin for a while under my uit..and it keeps you incredibly cool. (Sometimes...it works a little too well.)

Lycra diveskins are really just one piece under armor.

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I typically just run with loose undergarments.

Sookta's picture
"Day I got cookie. GNOM."

Location: Albany, NY/Burlington, VT

Anything that doesn't keep heat in is a good thing. In short, things made of spandex that wick sweat away from the body will help keep you cool. I personally wear a spandex unitard under my suit, which is great because it keeps everything cool. Anything designed to keep water or heat in would be a no-go. I would stay away from things like wetsuits, especially, because they're designed to give you warmth.

Something like Under Armour would be good, and you can pick it up at any sporting goods store usually.

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>Note: Swim trunks under a suit = major heat buildup in a bad way.

Oh man is that true! I wore a one piece swim suit under my fur for a zoo party and the weather wasn't too bad, maybe 65 degrees or so, but after about an hour, I started getting sick from the heat. Apparently, swimsuits are not designed to evaporate your sweat away from you and as a consequence, the heat just builds until you (1)pass out or (2)puke. In my case it was (3)... but we won't go into that other than to say I was running for the girl room, and it ain't easy to fur strip in 5 seconds flat but I managed somehow. Now I wear super light breathables like cheap cotton crop tops and light shorts with no belt. My new head is closed cell foam on the inside, which doesn't soak up water and has 8 permanent air channels, designed with such precision that NASA should soon be knocking at my door to hire me any day now. 3 fans direct the flow (thanks Jeefer!), and there are outlets in my ears that you can't see cause the long hair there blocks the view of the holes. I guess the thing you need to be aware of more than anything, is the MINUTE you feel imperfect... head for the headless lounge! Go to your room and shower! Take a break! You will have a lot more fun not being sick, trust me (imho)

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"Im a six toed folf!!! ^^"

Location: DeLancey, New York

*cries sadly Sad * the company i was ordering fur material from shutdown.. meaning i cant get my materail with enough time for con. i wont be suitning htis year like i hoped...
"The pack is everything! I live for my family.."

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www.crscrafts.com delivers within 7 days. Under bear supplies>syntheticfurs.
Have fun.

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quick question. I only have paws, a head, and a tail. Would it be cooler (Temperature wise) if I just wore a long sleeve shirt, or if I made arms for a suit?

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cooler would be long sleeves. It's really up to you though..remember it's the middle of Summer, which means hot.

mapdark's picture
"Happiness is simple : Spaghettis , love and sleep ^^"

Location: Montreal , Quebec , Canada

DEFINITLY HEAT!

half an hour under an extremely radiant sun of july and
you may very well pass out..

Drink a lot , take breaks .. kick away the fanbo.. I mean ^^;;

No .. seriously .. take care of your body temperature..

First because you don't wanna pass out

and second because overheating can make you puke ..

and you DON't wanna puke inside a fursuit..

So drinks .. breaks .. avoiding too much sun and much drinks (non-alcoholic of course) will help lots..
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