Anthrocon 2012 Fursuit Parade Group Shot
It's here, the Fursuit Parade group photo shot:
With 1,044 fursuiters in our parade, and assuming a cost of $1,000 per fursuit, this is the world's first $1 Million Dollar fursuit photograph!
A link to a the full version of that photo (3000 pixels wide, 1 Megabyte in size) can be found here.
Want an even bigger version of that photo? How about 15,000 pixels wide, and 7.9 MB in size? Here you go! (may cause issues in some browsers)
Photography courtesy of Warphammer.
Marvelous! Sad that I couldn't participate this year.
I spy a handful of uncostumed folks. Did they count toward the total?
I think I found The Stig in the photo. What was test driving? lol
Some say that he owns a TARDIS. And they are right. All we know is that he's called The Stig.
All I know is that The Stig apparently set the controls for one year early. Silly Stig, "The Fast and the Furrious" is next year's theme!
The Stig is so fast, he finished next year's Fursuit Parade THIS YEAR.
i love how the pic turned out.
There's one guy in the back facing the wrong way.
I'm standing right behind the sly copper guy
Wonderful photo! Many props to the photog who was able to get us all in such a shot! Sadly, I'm a dork, and you can only see hald my suit's face because I didn't look up high enough. I always mess up group shots. ;D
I love it! The parade and the whol experience was awesome. I am definitey looking forward to doing it all again next year!
Out of pure curiousity, what was the camera/lens combination used to take the photograph?
A D300, using, at that point, a 28-70 AF-S. Next year might be higher res.
It's worth noting that this is a stitch of about five photos.
I don't know about anybody else, but I loved the sign my friend Aloha made. He's standing in the front row (And I'm almost behind him, but to the left in my green and white husky suit.) to the right of the rainbow colored husky. His sign reads: "Lord, what fools these mortals be." I laughed so hard when I saw that sign when he showed it to me. It fit right in with the whole Shakespeare/Midsummer Night's Dream theme. LOL.
Love the photo, but sadly I am cut out by a suits big ears... A bit of a downer for my first AC/Furry con, but I had fun so that's what matters most. Can't wait till next year! Next time I will try closer to the front since I am short.
I was wondering next year if i could do my own charity to save the tiger an donate the cash... Just wondering..
I can't believe I can see my crooked jaw from this far away. ._.
I wish I hadn't messed with it the day before.. I accidentally broke it. >.<
any way we can buy this as a poster?
Looks great Warphammer, thanks!
I know.. I saw it being bought..
That is a moment of a lifetime, right there.
Can't wait to participate next year with my very first fursuit i can't wait
So. Much. Cuteness!
What an amazing photo!
I can't wait until 2016.-w-) When I can finally GO.
gosh this should be in genes records
I presume you mean Guinness World Records.
We are already listed there, but the entry is several years old. If someone would like to begin the arduous process of entering us in again, that someone is more than welcome to. The staff of Anthrocon do not have the time it takes, I fear, to go through the application. We're too busy trying to put on the best convention that we can.
Guinness World Records Application ?
Well I actually just went through this process for a customer that we did a commercial two weeks ago so I know a little about it. Basically we have two options:
1. Hire a Guinness world records adjudicator ( they are GBP4500 PLUS Flights Accomodation etc ) and that is the only way we can get the record verified live and on site.
2. Document and compile evidence of the record attempt and submit it for verification. Even as a fast track customer this option takes us three working days to get verified so the con would be over before the record could be announced.
Prior to commencement we have to obtain the specific guidelines that detail the rules and requirements of the event / record. We then have to ensure that everyone complies strictly with these guidelines. We then need a notary, audi company etc.
In all there are some 18 pages of rules.
If updating the record is important to you and the Furdom and you want a hand with this please let me know as there is a fair bit involved.
Option 1: 4500 British pounds at current conversion rates is $7289.55 US dollars. Add in airfare (roughly $1400), room ($450 +), board ($300 for 3 days) and you're talking about $9,200. That's 46 Supersponsorships! Kage and the rest of the Board would probably prefer to spend that much money on additional space or better conditions (bigger/more fursuit zones, for example) than spend it on a one-line entry that will hardly even be noticed in Guinness' Book of Records.
Option 2: What 'evidence' would Guinness need? How much documentation? How could they verify that it was correct and not faked? The Board wouldn't do such a thing, but how would the Guinness people know that?
In short, it would be a great deal of expense or work to get a new entry in Guinness. My feeling is that the Board probably feels it's just not worth the expense or time that would have to be dedicated to it. That's just my opinion, of course.
Guinness World Records Application
Option 1 - I agree that these funds would be better spent on other areas of Anthrocon. Unlike the promotions that I have just done for a company with a 4.5 billion turnover it is pointless to spend money when there is no revenue to be gained from the record. I would personally rather give $10k to a worthy cause than spend it on a novelty.
Option 2 - This would be the best for the record and is the option. We would need at least two independent witness statements or one signed affidavit by a civil law notary (please note that in the USA, a Notary Public does not qualify under the Civil Law Notary option and therefore cannot act as sole witness for a record attempt) confirming the measurements and details of your claim. ‘Independent’ means that they are not associated with, or related to, the record organizers or participants, nor should they have anything to gain from the final outcome of the attempt.
We would also need stewards that would either accept or decline the admittance of Fursuiters based on them meeting or not meeting the criteria. This may upset some guests like “The Stig” as last year as I don’t think he would not qualify as a suiter.
We would also need high quality photos, video etc but this is all being produced in the goal of having a group photo.
If you give me the category that Anthrocon got in the GWR last time I will follow it through for you. It would be a lot of work from our end but my production house is more than happy to do most of it (For free of course) for Anthrocon. We would need someone in Pittsburgh to organize the civil law notary and witnesses (who can NOT be furries) as I have no resources to carry this out. We would get things to a point that someone on the team would just have to attach the relevant footage, images etc (I would put together a check list) and drop it in the mail.
THE COOL PART
For all of those who have always wanted to have a Guinness World Record certificate on their wall now GWR has an Extra Certificates Service. With their personalized Extras Certificates we can order certificates for any furry that took part with their name (Dont know how GWR will go with Fursona names though) on them.
This will take a lot of work to put together and I am happy to provide most of the administration and pay a few thousand towards the costs. Is this something that the Anthrocon community would really like or is it just a novelty.
We have an ultra-high-resolution picture of our fursuit group photo. We also have the video record of the "Sanma no Manma" show from Japan. Would that be sufficient documentation for them?
Hi Uncle Kage
Just in relation to
"We have an ultra-high-resolution picture of our fursuit group photo. We also have the video record of the "Sanma no Manma" show from Japan. Would that be sufficient documentation for them?"
Guinness is really strict and without the indepentant witnesses etc getting this years total accepted is unlikely to happen. The effort that we had to go through for my clients GWR commercial attemps was massive. Also not to be rude and please do not take this the wrong way but in my opinion there is a slight contamination in the photo with people who would not qualify as fursuiters. From my dealings with them GWR insists that mass participation events are "Pure".
As there will be more furries next year in my opinion the 2013 would be the best year to update the record. If I get my team to start working on it from scratch and check every box they have so to speak.
What was the name of the record that Anthrocon holds in the GWR ?
Once I get the name of the record I will get my house to get the rule sheets from GWR and get back to you with a break down of exactly what is required.
How nice, we are right under ''Modern mass suicides''.
Hi Uncle Kage
I have got my team onto it.
I suspect as the category is "Largest Furry Fan Club" and not based on the people in fursuits then the photo / group shot will not be relevant and the actual attendance at AC 2013 will decide the number. This will probably just require us to get an independent auditor to verify the number of registrations after the con, Fill out an application and send it to GWR.
As one does not have to own a fursuit to be a fan then the number of suiters will probably not be relevant.
Give us about three days and I will get back to you with what GWR requires to have this record corrected.
If you wish to create a new category such as "Largest number of fursuiters in one place" or something of that nature I expect that GWR would be open to that and then the group shot and those in it would decide the record. This option would be a lot of work but would give everyone a GWR certificate if they want one.
Next year we were planning to ask handlers and other non-suiters to step out of the group photo. It does, after all, sort of dilute the spirit of the event to have non-furry faces in there. If we had the photo also taken by a local news cameraman, would that serve as sufficient "independent verification"?
Hi Uncle Kage
I just received a response from the adjudicator that we have used for other events. I cannot use my existing GWR profiles as they belong to the corporations I was engaged by. He was absolutely full of useful advice though.
With the GWR attempt the fursuit photo will best fit the mass participation category of a GWR. The definition that with your permission I would submit for a GWR would be "Most Fursuiters in one place".
What I need to do is to submit an application in the name of Anthrocon then it will be reviewed by a specialist researcher and accepted as either a new or existing category or rejected with the reasons why. They will then send me the corresponding rules and regulations that must be strictly adhered to.
Once we have our set of rules and regulations then we can work out the logistics of what documentation we need, what auditors we need, what defines a fursuiter, and how we can make the group photo eligible.
May I have your permission to submit a GWR attempt in the name of Anthrocon ?
I will give you the passwords to the Anthrocon profile at GWR ( by e-mail not on here of course), forward you all correspondence, and at any time you can take over the administration of the GWR record.
My staff and I will prepare the record application to a point that once the photo is taken all you will have to do is place some correspondence into an envelope and drop it in the mail. At this point you or I can log on to GWR change the contact details to your own and my contribution to Anthrocon GWR attempt will be done with all future correspondence going to you.
Now as you are aware I have never been to an Anthrocon. Even though I have had a desire to go for over six years as my x would have no part of it I have never been. It is only now I have a new awesome partner that sees how awesome Anthrocon actually is. My partner and I have now ordered two fursuits each, made over twenty furry friends both here in Oz and abroad and even though we have not yet attended a con really have become part of the furry culture / community.
Before I submit an application in the name of Anthrocon would you like me to e-mail you my details, substantiate who I actually am, submit a criminal record check or anything of that nature?
You may go ahead and submit the application. And while I know that Oz is a rather sizeable place, if you're anywhere in the neighborhood of Melbourne in the beginning of December, you should stop by MidFur. I'll be there myself.
As for what defines a fursuiter, that is a rather nebulous thing. Anthrocon uses a very flexible definition that usually boils down to a costume that (1) creates the impression of an animal, either real or mythical, and (2) does not show any skin. The idea is to create the illusion that the fursuit is real, not a human wearing a mask.
Hi Uncle Kage
That definition I think will work a treat as it is easy to state and very specific at the same time.
My realistic Wolf will be finished in time for MidFur and Melbourne is only a 1hr flight from Sydney. Just wanted Anthrocon to be the first con I ever went to. Now I am tempted to head down will have to think on that one !
I will get the GWR underway, just allow about 14 to 21 days for any response as I am just going to buy the basics not the fast track etc as we have a lot of time on our side.
Will keep you posted on the progress.
Hi Uncle Kage & Fellow Furries.
GWR "Most Fursuiters in one place"
I have now submitted our application into the GWR as a "Fast Track".
In the next three to five days they will get back to us as to the acceptance of the catagory or if they think a slight name change is required then suggest one. They will also get back to us with the conditions of our entry / conditions of the record.
Will keep you all posted and look forward to being part of it.
P.S. Having not been to an Anthrocon before I hope I was correct to assume that the group photo will be on the Saturday the 6th of July 2013 ! I can go in and correct this if it has changed.
You still can participate in the GWR attempt as the application is for 2013.
But next year the picture must be pure and only fursuiters to be eligable for the GWR attempt.
Will post the conditions as soon as GWR gets back to us.
I paid for a "Fast Track" application so we get direct simple contact with a GWR representitive.
THis years picture is not eligable as you have to apply to the GWR BEFORE the attempt not after.
Guinness World Records - Update
As we ( Anthrocon ) are now a fast track GWR customer we have been given our own record manager.
The actual category will be defined over the next few weeks as our current entry in the GWR is just for Furry Fans not Fursuiters.
There are only three counting methods deemed acceptable being a barcode system that is very complex and I can imagine being quite expensive. The other two are for us to rent turn styles and I don’t think 1000 plus furries heading through turn styles would be easy. Individually numbered wrist bands would be the best way to go as long as no one would mind wearing one. We would need marshals to ensure that the furry fits the definition then issue a wrist band.
I will bring a few thousand over from Australia numbered and identified in line with GWR guidelines. I can probably even get them printed up with Anthrocon GWR or something like that as long as I am granted permission to use the Anthrocon logo ( note GWR not their trade mark) on the bands.
Would anyone have a issue with wearing a wrist band for the duration of the photo shoot ?
We also need to be in position for 10 minutes and this must be recorded by two experienced time keepers such as someone involved with an athletics club.
Finally we need an uncut time stamped video and two independent witnesses.
This is all very good, except for the "being in place for 10 minutes." That is simply not practical. There are still fursuiters running in to the room with 20 seconds to spare. That is about the time that I call for Security to admit no more fursuiters. The photo is taken over the course of a maximum of two minutes, and then the parade begins promptly. We would have to have a better definition of "in place."
Hi Uncle Kage – Update
We now have a record that will apply to our group photo that is –
LARGEST GATHERING OF PEOPLE WEARING FURSUITS
Due to last year’s photo having 1044 fursuiters even though that is not an official GWR that is what they have set as the “Standing Record” to pass.
The GWR is not flexible when it comes to some things like the 10 mins in place. As it is not practical we will have to do a “Work Around”. When we hit 1045 fursuiters the GWR record is ours. We can then start the clock and if anyone else joins they can still be in the picture but will not count to the GWR total. If anyone leaves they will be subtracted from the total.
I hope that when you announce that this is a GWR attempt our fellow furries will get a wiggle on and be a little earlier.
After taking your definition into consideration the definition that GWR will apply to qualify as a fursuiter will be
"A fursuit is a detailed head-to-toe furry animal costume that includes paws, ears, and a tail where
applicable, in a full representation of an existing or fictional animal character."
The record specifics are as follows.
1. Only those in costume are to be included in the final total.
2. In order to qualify, the costume must not show any of the individual’s own skin.
3. All participants must be in position simultaneously and remain so for a minimum of 10
4. A loud start and finish signal recognised by all participants must be used. Two
experienced timekeepers (e.g. from a local athletics club) must time the attempt with
stopwatches accurate to 0.01 seconds.
5. All participants must wear the costume for the entirety of the attempt.
I am now going to MidFur in Melbourne for Friday, Saturday and Sunday. Wish I could go for the entire con but due to a film we are shooting in Sydney I cannot get away any longer. I will go through all the details of the finer details such as the independent witnesses, marshalls etc with you then.
Look forward to meeting you in person.
The GWR is not flexible when it comes to some things like the 10 mins in place. As it is not practical we will have to do a "Work Around". When we hit 1045 fursuiters the GWR record is ours. We can then start the clock and if anyone else joins they can still be in the picture but will not count to the GWR total. If anyone leaves they will be subtracted from the total.
How does this solve Kage's "everybody's only in place for 2 minutes"?
Indeed, it is a concern. We simply cannot have fursuiters in full suit standing around for 10 minutes for no reason. We try to avoid that as much as we can, having people remove their heads right up until the time of photo. It is a matter of safety. Last year we had (*knock on wood*) no instances of anyone passing out from heat exhaustion and we would like to keep that track record going.
Is the following feasible and would GWR accept it?
Have 2-3 independent counters at the start and end of the parade route to count every suiter. I assume it's NBD to have a video camera to record them too if needed (and somebody's willing) to verify that everybody who started also finished, though this allows "cheating" by somebody's getting out to take a break then getting back in.
The category might have to change to "largest number of fursuiters in a parade" or something like that...
Ron and Uncle kage.
10 mins in position not a possibility due to health and safety reasons.
“Most fursuiters to collapse at one time” or “Most fursuiters to need medical attention”
Yes that does not have the same sound to it does it. Our GWR fast track record manager is out of the office until Monday. She has been great so far and I have worked with her before so I am sure that based on medical grounds and the safety of the participants that they will give a lot of consideration to allowing us to be in place for two mins rather than ten.
As I am a newbie to fursuiting, my first suit does not arrive for another four weeks, the others are not here until February I was not familiar with the problem overheating on a personal level. I will put an application together that will be orientated around the necessity of a fursuiter needing to be walking or moving for the reasons of ventilation. This should weigh heavily on their decision to reduce the time that all participants must remain in position simultaneously by eight mins.
I am sure if I need a recommendation from a medical professional to back up this statement there is a furry doctor in the house! Will let you know if I do.
There are 21 pages of conditions, rules, regulations and restrictions relating to our record attempt.
Out of all of them to have just one that is difficult is a challenge we can overcome.
I will need some assistance from about 20 volunteers to hand out numbered wrist bands to eligible fursuiters on the day of the shoot, i.e. 50 wrist bands per person to apply to 50 fursuiters as they enter. They can be anyone from the handlers, dealers, furry fans, etc. The wrist band system is the counting method that we will use.
Also if you have a person in Pittsburgh that can assist it would help no end. As I need to locate, engage, organize two independent witnesses. I can engage a local event planner to do this if you cannot think of anyone; this would be an additional cost that I will of course absorb.
Setting a GWR for the world’s largest fursuit parade would be another long and expensive proposal to put to GWR so let’s keep that one for 2014.
As I have discovered, your Westin hotel really loves you more than you will ever know. After we achieve the GWR for the “LARGEST GATHERING OF PEOPLE WEARING FURSUITS” I was thinking it would be a nice idea to get a GWR certificate and the group photo framed together for them to hang somewhere in their hotel.
That's an awful lot of volunteers! :( It might be tough. All of the fursuiters enter through the same door to get to the photo shoot. Could we position just a couple of volunteers on either side of the door?
Do they have to wear the wristbands? It might be tough since some of the suits are rather bulky.
As for safety, we encourage people not to put their heads on, or otherwise give themselves ventilation, until about 1 minute before the actual photo. At 1:59 I call for everyone to put their heads on and move into position. The photo is then taken, and indeed, if 2 minutes is acceptable, we can have them stay there. There are lots of independent people we can get as witnesses or timers: local radio and TV personalities, members of the Pittsburgh Convention and Visitor's Bureau, management of the convention center, local restauranteurs (I am sure Fernando would be happy to help), and so on.
As for stopwatches, I am a scientist: I can provide NIST-traceable timers.