Con Crud : simple as hell to avoid .. yet..

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mapdark's picture
"Happiness is simple : Spaghettis , love and sleep ^^"

Location: Montreal , Quebec , Canada

Ok , since I have been somewhat subject to con crud at last AC I think it was maybe a good idea newcommers be warned BEFORE the con Sticking out tongue

Con Crud is basically a flash infection of the con population by a non-life-threathening virus such as influenza or stuff like that.

But , seeing this year's massive GASTRO (stomach flu) cases in northern states and Canada I think it's EVEN MORE important to make sure we don't spread something nasty at the con..

So , if you sneeze , shield your nose and mouth with your hands please!

Wash those said hands after . If no cleaning products or facilities are close , it might sound stupid but sneeze in your elbow ..

I mean the likeness of someone touching your elbow is very low..

Where you're about to eat .. again wash your hands.. even if you did'nt
touch anyone during the day you most certainly touched a door knob , staircase ramps etc. , so yeah ..

A daily shower IS necessary .. Even if you don't SMELL , you will have been exposed to tons of germs flying from people to people.. We're thousands of people at that con Eye-wink

The problem is that even if you'Re not felling sick you might be a carrier .
Your immune system preventing you from getting sick..

But different locations different strains of viruses..
So the northern furs can basically infect the south population .

and vice-versa..

So basically ..
Water and soap are your friends!

and sleep too ..

it's been proven that lack of sleep can make your immune system less efficient ..

So SLEEP ! at LEAST 6 hours a day .. you'll see everything will still be there the next morning ^^;

I personally recommend 7 hours..

7 is the lucky number ..it's not too much and not too little..

Or more simply , follow the famous 6-2-1 rule

6 hours of sleep , 2 meals , 1 bath or shower a day..

So you won't be a danger to you OR the other people!

cause yeah you CAN infect other people!

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I also highly recommend Cold Eeze...they're little cough drop like things. Not too pleasent a taste but not too awful either. Since taking one a day during conventions, starting the day before the convention, I have managed to avoid the con crud. Smiling

Also, they sell now tiny little bottles of hand sanitizer, for those times when soap and water is just not available. Very conveniant.

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And a note on handwashing. Many folks have a tendency to stick their hands under the water and think they're done. Here's how to wash your hands so it actually stops the spread of germs.

Take off any rings and your watch or bracelets. Germs can hide and breed under the edges, since they'll trap moisture.

Use soap.

Rub your hands together vigorously to get visible lather. Soap without scrubbing can't do its job.

Wash between your fingers and up over your wrists.

Wash for 30 seconds. How long is that? Sing a short song or nursery rhyme like Happy Birthday, Row-row-your-boat or Pop Goes the Weasel (in your head), twice. That'll work out to about 30 seconds.

Use your wrists to turn the water off. (I think many of the convention center sinks are motion activated. Even better!)

Dry your hands. Retrieve your jewelry. If the bathroom has a door you need to pull open, you may want to use a sleeve to open it. Not everybody else washed their hands!

Be sure to wipe off your jewelry, watch, and other items at least once a day. Be particularly careful of cellphones which practically nobody ever remembers to wipe down.

Berner's picture
Location: Edmonton, Alberta Canada

Canadians don't get sick!

I've never had a single virus make it's way in past the ice shield of my igloo.

One tip though to help keep cold virus' out of your igloo? Mix in some maple syrup with the ice and then once you have a solid structure with your igloo, load up an outer layer of back bacon on it.

If you live in Newfoundland however, you always wanna make sure you remove a layer of permafrost, so that way you'll be able to dig for squid easily.

mapdark's picture
"Happiness is simple : Spaghettis , love and sleep ^^"

Location: Montreal , Quebec , Canada

Good for you Agaguk Eye-wink

but this guy from MONTREAL does,nt have an igloo and DOES get sick Sticking out tongue

Exkhaniber's picture

Personally I do 8 hours of sleep a day, two meals and a midday snack, and a shower both before I go to bed and after. 6 hours of sleep really isn't enough to be 100% yourself, two meals and a snack helps keep a normal metabolism and energy levels up, and showering at the end of the day is both refreshing and helps for all the reasons Mapdark already listed. As for the mornings, it's always a good start to shower in the morning, and well, hotel sheets are infamous for a reason...

Moving on. As for keeping healthy, make sure your diet contiains proper nutrients. A daily Centrum can help. And there's new products on the shelves these days that dramatically help your immune system. One such example is "Air shield". Just visit your local pharmacy and find the appropriate section for some good stuff. Also check out the diet section for a nutritional drink called "Boost". It actually tastes pretty good and it comes in an immune-boosting forumla too. Although that alone isn't as good as "Air Shield", it would make a good morning or midday snack.

As for meals, remember to eat substantial stuff that isn't junk. Potato chips, candy, fast food, and anything like that will sap your energy and probably still leave you feeling hungry later. There is plenty to eat VERY close to the Westin, so you have no excuse for not getting a decent meal. Personally I eat a light snack when I first wake up (nothing heavy to weigh me down). For me, that is generally a nutri-grain bar and a Boost. It's healthy and gives my stomach enough to do for a short while. Lunch is slightly heavier with whatever decent food I can scrape up (Subway is my destination of choice), then a decent sized dinner.

I should echo what Fenrislorsrai has said about handwashing and add a few points. Remember to use warm-hot water, and get under your nails by sliding your fingertips across your palm. And scrub *thoroughly*. Top of hands, bottom, between your fingers, and up to your wrists. And to turn off the water, it is highly recommended that you use a *dry* paper towel after you've already dried your hands. Touching the faucet with any exposed skin will negate your previous handwashing since the viruses and bacteria are then reintroduced onto your skin and they will work their black magic from there.

It's generally a good idea in life to carry around one or two napkins or tissues with you wherever you go in case you do sneeze and its...unfortunately messy. Plus you never know what else you might run into while running around, so you should always carry a few tissues.

Hand sanitizer that you carry around is not going to help you nearly as much as you think. Unless your immunse system is compromised due to advanced HIV disease, bone marrow, or kidney transplant, bacteria floating around are the least of your worries. Viruses are the problem and for the most part aren't effected by sanitizer. Ergo, again, it's all about handwashing, covering your mouth when you cough or sneeze, and keeping your distance from people who are visibly sick.

Thus far I've managed to stay healthy through two Anthrocons. Got sick at last FC, but I couldn't help someone walking onto the elevator and coughing right on me.

-There is no truth

KageRyuu's picture
"This is exactly what it looks like."

Location: The Woodlands, Texas, The United States of North America

theres a new strain of teburculosis (i know its spelled wrong)
out there and its immune to all antibiotics to date. I suggest for those of you who are sick. wear a face mask. for those who aren't sick. wear a face mask. it never hurts to be over prepared especially for a deadly disease

SilverMcHowl's picture
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Biohazard fursuits anyone?

Woody's picture
"It's normal to think you're not, but not to think that you are..."

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They're the LATEST thing, eveyrone's ordering one!

Exkhaniber's picture

Well, as much as antibiotics would help those already afflicted, they do institute a complete quarrentine of infected persons for a reason. The general populus is safe. I think face masks are actually going overboard until something like this becomes a pandemic.

Besides you're going to be scaring all the paranoid people on the boards. I've heard about people cancelling their AC plans simply because they're afraid of that one in a million shot they might be mugged because Pittsburgh is a big city. We don't need more paranoia running around.

-There is no truth

KageRyuu's picture
"This is exactly what it looks like."

Location: The Woodlands, Texas, The United States of North America

wow i didnt notice that thx for showing me the errors of my ways *coughsarcasmcough* lol jp with you, but seriously i'm one of them paranoids you keep talkin about. ppl say im obsessed (thats what they said about me being a fur) but i think im just precautionary.

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I'm afraid you've gone from obsessed to outright alarmist. There is no reason at all for anyone to wear a face mask at Anthrocon -- other than a fursuiter, of course.

SilverMcHowl's picture
"Lover of peanut butter"

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Your one to talk. You'd survice a nuclear holocaust. =(

mapdark's picture
"Happiness is simple : Spaghettis , love and sleep ^^"

Location: Montreal , Quebec , Canada

we can't know for sure.. there,s never been one Sticking out tongue

Let's try ! YO IRAN! DROP A FEW !!

SilverMcHowl's picture
"Lover of peanut butter"

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survive* ><

mapdark's picture
"Happiness is simple : Spaghettis , love and sleep ^^"

Location: Montreal , Quebec , Canada

.... I think ..

No I won't say what I think .. no need for drama ..

But I bet you're the kind of guy who thinks Aliens are out to kill us all in the next 5 years..

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If yer gonna do THAT, might as well use one of these, and be in-theme! ;D
http://pingmag.jp/2005/07/26/samira-boon-dutch-design-from-japan/

KageRyuu's picture
"This is exactly what it looks like."

Location: The Woodlands, Texas, The United States of North America

lol i was just thinking a paper mask, but that one looks cool didn't even think they made those

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Everything I've read says that most viruses are killed by alcohol gels (hand sanitizers) with a high enough alcohol level. But yeah hand washing is definitely better; hand sanitizer is just a good back up.

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I'll second the notion about AirShield -- the original formula is called Airborne, and AirShield is one of several store-brand knockoffs.

It's a citrus-flavored fizzy tablet that you dissolve in a glass of water and drink every few hours. Contains a bunch of herbs and supplements intended to boost your immune system. You'd start taking it before going to the con, and continue doing so until after you get home. It was developed by a grade-school teacher who was sick of getting sick from the kids in school. I learned about it only a few weeks ago when I was starting to get the sniffles at work, so I haven't tried it at a con yet, but I intend to do so.

I have quit eating a lot of con suite snacks, unless they're individually wrapped candies, etc. -- multiple grubby hands reaching into bowls of nuts, chips, etc. is just asking for trouble. Since doing so I haven't had a bad case of the cruds, but after the last con I attended I did come down with the mild cold, when my boss suggested Airborne.

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It really really really works!! And while the con is a great place to take it, make sure you take it on the flight over to said con. Thats the most important. Most people who are sick over the entire length of AC usually catch whatever it is on the flight over.

If you have 2 flights, take one at the connection. I thought I would be fine taking it on just the first 3 hr flight, but if work off, and, yup, I got sick. They aren't kidding about that 1 every 3 hours thing.

AND Airborne has a new flavor now that doesn't make me vomit, so yay, I can take it too now.

Tiger kitty ready for AC, at your service,
Verdauga

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I agree 100% with your advice on handling food that may have been handled by others, but as for the Airborne...not so much.

There has yet to be a clinical study to prove the efficacy of Airborne (half-assed studies cited by the manufacturer notwithstanding). Without that, I'm somewhat skeptical of a dietary supplement (thus less regulated by the FDA) developed by an elementary school teacher and made popular by Oprah Winfrey. I sorta prefer my science done by scientists, thanks Eye-wink

I suppose if a supplement is truly desired, at least zinc gluconate glycine lozenges (Cold-Eeze and the like) have been proven to slightly reduce the duration of the common cold when taken at the first sign of symptoms (7.5 days vs. 9 days) and to slightly reduce the median number of colds per year (0 vs. 1.3).

...even if Cold-Eeze does taste like licking aluminum siding Smiling

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Your description of the taste of cold-eeze is extremely accurate. Sticking out tongue

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Verdauga's picture
"Kitty without a Clue!"

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Airborne works for me, paws down, no arguments at all. I don't trust the FDA half the time anyways =P

Not saying you don't have valid points, but it works for lots of people I know, every time they use it. So I keep using it

Tiger kitty ready for AC, at your service,
Verdauga

KageRyuu's picture
"This is exactly what it looks like."

Location: The Woodlands, Texas, The United States of North America

i got myself the green Airborne they had no orange

CopperFangHusky's picture
"What I'm? it's a difficult question, What I feel? it's easier...(sorry for my pour english)"

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Is more important that "sneeze and shield", is clean hands after go to WC, because con crud is a gastroenterical affection, and is most probable that you can be infected by eat that for a sneeze, however obviously we must have a good higienic-behavior, (only for be healthy)...
=3 =3

KageRyuu's picture
"This is exactly what it looks like."

Location: The Woodlands, Texas, The United States of North America

I didn't undershtand what you said but i like with what what you shaid.

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"Do I -LOOK- like a lion to you?"

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I don't think "The Dorsai Irregulars" will be thrilled about having to open a special medical ward for sick furs.

--- Begin Ranting Sequence ---

It's common-sense to prevent the spread of infection to yourself, and quite possibly onto others. Washing your paws frequently will most definitely decrease your chances of contracting something viral, being that such appendages are proven to be the dirtiest parts of your body at any given time. As other users on this forum pointed out; maintaining a balanced diet, healthy amount of sleep, and bathing at least once-a-day helps keeps those icky germs away. It's a little disappointing that some people simply cannot understand these basic principals to keep themselves clean and healthy, yet this is why such threads exist.

Spreading awareness is the best kind of defense, while soaps and sanitizers only enforce cleanliness! I say, let's band together, my fellow furs! Together - with our superior weaponry of antiseptic sprays, vast boxes of Kleenex©, and a warehouse supply of liquid soap; we shall stand firm, and defend our brethren against the forces of... sickness!!!

--- End Ranting Sequence---

Meh, sorry about that, folks. I had nothing better to do on this hour than make some crude humor. Still, it's not that difficult to keep one self from infection. Sure, there are some situations where you cannot guard yourself against such pathogens, but it never hurts to take some degree of care. Nobody - including myself, enjoys getting sick. Personally, I have a naturally strong immune system, all of my vaccinations are U.T.D. (Up-To-Date), and I drink plenty of fluids with a daily vitamin; I rarely get sick - maybe once out of a given year, yet during that -ONE- time I get sick... I -REALLY- get sick. If you do somehow catch something, at least take some precautions to prevent a wide-scale spread. I'm not trying to dictate what others should do, but I'm only point these things out.

~Zander Stealthpaw

mapdark's picture
"Happiness is simple : Spaghettis , love and sleep ^^"

Location: Montreal , Quebec , Canada

Basically what I just posted Sticking out tongue

I don't think of it as bossing around but more like :

"People being sick sucks .. me being sick sucks even more .. don't get me sick please?"

zanderstealthpaw's picture
"Do I -LOOK- like a lion to you?"

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N'ah, I was thinking more like:

"Sir, please pinch my nostrils shut, or I will have to sneeze on you, now."

That would be putting it politely, and you would have given that person a heads-up! Else, said person would have to suffer the... 'snotty' consequences? Sticking out tongue

~Zander Stealthpaw

RappyRaptor's picture
Location: Dartmouth, Nova Scotia

I never got 'con crud' at AC last year, or FC for that matter. Lucky me I guess. I got a cold a few weeks later, but that was obviously from my workplace or somthing.

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desteredra's picture
"Little dragon. Big mouth."

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*nodnodnod*

It seems only fair, if you think you're coming down with something, to try not to share it with others.

If you feel like you're gonna sneeze, try to turn your head away from other people's faces and cover your nose and mouth. Airborne bugs like colds love sneezing--it's like being catapulted into your new home. And the force generated by a single sneeze is pretty staggering.

If you think there's a chance you might have a bug, don't share food or drink with other people. Just keep your paddy paws out of that bowl of chips, or at least try to cover your hand in a napkin.

And if you're sharing a room, you might think about volunteering for the floor or in some other way maximizing the distance between you and the person you might most easily cough on in your sleep.

A few as yet unmentioned thoughts for people trying to be extra careful not to catch other people's diseases:

Try to do all that being healthy stuff starting before you get to the gather, so you're not coming in already compromised.

Close your eyes when other people sneeze, and turn your head away. Your eye is basically a nice warm moist place with direct access to the body, and it skimps on protection in order to maintain eyesight. A lot of the airborne bugs we catch, we catch through the eyes.

Be a little careful about times when you go from being really hot to really cold in a short period of time. Doesn't come into play much in the summer, but it might matter for fursuiters. That kind of rapid shift may be nice for your circulation, but it shocks the immune system and leaves you a bit extra vulnerable.

Also, studies have shown that smoking significantly reduces your resistance to lung-based diseases, like colds and the flu and pneumonia. And it doesn't take much smoking to do it, either. *wrysmile* Just sayin'.

Mwuricon D Malamute's picture
Location: York, PA

Odly enough I went to AC06 with a slight cold, and went home in perfect health.

As for preventing illness, I now use an essential oil blend called Thieves. It was developed from a recipe taken from the tombs of thiefs that robbed the bodies of the dead, and dying during the black plauge. They died of old age, and not the plague. When the blend was submited for clinical testing it scored better than both {Amoxicillin, and Amphicillin}spelling errors, against airborn pathogens. Boasting a 99.9% kill rate on most common bacteria. The company that makes it also puts it in soap, and other sanitizer products. If you want info on it message me.

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