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Last year 98.4% of our attendees were a delight to the housekeepers of the hotel, who found that the rooms had been left quite tidy and in good condition for them, and they were very grateful for the tips left behind. There is, however, the matter of the other 1.6% of the rooms, which were, as we say in the profession, "trashed," and some of which required significant cleaning and repair. Last year the hotel was nice and didn't say anything, but I have been asked to pass along a polite reminder that rooms that require more than their fair share of cleaning may be assessed a surcharge after the fact, and those who rent rooms that afterward require repairs will absolutely be asked to pay for those repairs. Let me add my own polite reminders. (1) It's not your room. It's someone else's property, so please treat it as such. (2) The hotel has your name and credit card number, and is well within their right to charge for excessive cleaning or repairs. (3) Since such a thing may well reflect badly on Anthrocon as a whole it is of great interest to me, and thus I have asked to be told who among our membership might be responsible. I would really, really hate to have to have such an uncomfortable chat with any of our cherished attendees. |

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Amen!
Furries need to show that we're just common people with uncommon interests (well, and perhaps not even that uncommon, really.) If we come in to a place en masse and avoid offending everybody else around us, we may actually gain a sort of appreciation by others who are not furs, and this improves our overall image. It's not really fair to your fellow furs if you come in to this hotel and are obnoxious or rude to random people or hotel staff, because there's a good chance that some people will see that behavior and attribute it to furries as a whole. And really, some furs can be nice, some can be jerks, but we'd like to not give everybody a bad perception to begin with; it sucks to have someone pre-emptively assume things about you because you belong to a certain group with a certain reputation.
Like, "Oh, those furries... they're just weirdos that trash hotel rooms and like to be jerks to people." Okay, that's kind of far-fetched, perhaps, but there ARE people that are quite willing to make generalizations about furries that arn't true (or maybe are only true for a few people.... I won't go into all those different things people attribute to us as a whole, many arn't appropriate for discussion here ;p)
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permalinkYikes, I'm sorry to hear about that. If I may ask though...what sort of things were done to the rooms that brought this up?
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permalinkI guess that means I'll have to leave my power tools and wallpaper home, AGAIN !!
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permalinkLocation: NewCastle Delaware
I never leave my room in a mess..I know how much work those maids have, and I don't like to give them more...So I always pick up the room, put all the towels and what not in a pile where they can just grab them, and i fold up the blankets for them to also just pick up...I hate to put more burden on people so..yeah. Keep yer rooms at least mostly tidy! -nod-
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permalinkLocation: Montreal , Quebec , Canada
I personally don't understand HOW you can trash a hotel room..
I mean .. you sleep there in the evening .. leave your stock there and technically you should be gone all day..
I mean .. unless you jump on the beds or throw chairs across the room (which I PRAY nobody did) it's pretty hard to TRASH a room..
but in another way .. nothing surprises me anymore..
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permalinkLocation: Philadelphia area, PA
Never underestimate the power of people on vacation. *wrygrin*
Yes, ppl could throw chairs around or break springs on beds, and that would certainly be obnoxious. Last year's removal of number plates from doors falls into that category--the stuff you generally only do when you're trying to be destructive.
There's also lesser (but still obnoxious) stuff. A few suggestions, for those who want to make sure to leave the room in reasonable shape:
--Make sure all of the towels, sheets, blankets, and pillows are in the hotel room that they started in and readily findable. Goes without saying, perhaps, but it happens.
--While you're at it, having all of the blankets, sheets and pillows on the bed and all of the used towels in a tidy pile (or hanging up to dry) is not too much to ask. It's not necessary to make the bed, since the housekeeping folks are going to strip it anyway, but they really don't want to have to go hunting for anything.
--if you spill something, clean it up. Even spills of shampoo or the like in the bathtub are a pain in the butt that no one really wants. And make sure you drain the tub, if you're using it for sodas or something.
--make sure all of the trash makes it into the trash can. If you're concerned about leaving behind recycling to get trashed, i recommend asking the hotel staff about it before you leave, since they'll know if they recycle and how best to bag and label it.
--put the furniture back the way it was when you arrived. It sounds like a small thing, but dragging 50 chairs across the room in 50 separate rooms is more than anyone particularly wants to do. Dragging beds back into place is worse, and don't even get me started on mattresses off of beds. Putting the phone, alarm, and remote control back where you found them as well is a nice touch.
--Just in case anyone missed it...Do not tape or otherwise affix anything to the door or walls. Even most tape can leave a sticky residue behind, and somebody has to scrub that off. Hanging something off the door handles with a loop or hook is ok now, and i suggest we stick to that. But if you do put up those signs on your door handles, take them down when you leave.
None of these things alone is likely to mark your room as 'trashed' if you neglect them (except maybe the last one, if you chip the paint). But when you've got a room with the furniture rearranged, and trash all over the floor, and one of the pillows stuffed under the bed, and a wet towel soaking the mattress, and a spilled soda, and a picture taped on the wall...
You get the picture. If you treat the space the way you would a room at your grandparents' house (or that of your boss, for that matter), you should be in pretty good standing. I'd really love to see us get (back?) to a point where the hotel staff look forward to having us come. *smiles*
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Good points there.
Also, we all know that "stuff happens". If you spill something and aren't able to clean it up or have a significant amount of trash after a big party or whatever, it never hurts to leave a generous tip for the maid and a note apologizing for the mess.
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permalinkI did that once.
A number of years ago, I was at a convention (not a furry con.) I had some people over in my room for a low-key get-together. One guy arrived looking hung over. I let him crash on one of the beds without discussion. Some time into the visit, he threw up, and I saw red. I walked straight over to the phone and picked up the receiver, thinking to ask for the hotel doctor or an ambulance (thinking he'd torn his insides and needed a hospital immediately) when someone yelled at me
"No, he was eating spaghetti!!!"
(IIRC, I asked if anyone knew First Aid while I headed for
the phone, which is why someone figured out why I went for
the phone.)
Once we determined that he was just drunk and hung over, and NOT dying, they dragged him back to his room, and I tried to salvage the sheets. I tried soap-and-water ("there's always hope when you've got water and soap"), and got about 1/2 of it out.
As for the rest, I left a very apologetic note next to it, clipped to a generous tip.
Next day, no problems. The epilogue was him coming up to me later, looking human. He seemed ready to pay me for the tip I left when he asked how things went, but I told him to just keep it in mind when the NEXT person dropped a problem in HIS lap. (Basically, the concept now known as "pay it forward.")
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The morals?
A) Remember to tip the staff generously if you have to make more work for them.
B) Remember that you are morally and legally responsible for EVERYTHING that happens in your room.
C) Drunk people at conventions can cause unforseen problems.
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permalinkLocation: New Jersey, US
On that note, try not to trash YOURSELVES also. There were quite a few stumbling incredibly drunken furs milling about last year, and that can make more of a bad image then the rooms even simply because they're right out in the open.
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Hey, there is always the Led Zeplin method of treating your hotel rooms. *snickers*
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permalinkIn mundane life, I work in the hotel industry. Housekeeping is the unsung people in a hotel. They are very important to your comfort during your stay and its a very good idea to be nice to them.
- Tip your housekeeper at the START of your stay. You'll always find some note from housekeeping in your room, whether its just a hello note or one that mentioned how to get clean towels. In the morning, as you're leaving the room for the day, leave a buck or two sticking out from under that little sign. It is something that is noticed, they tell each other who tips, who doesn't and who are slobs.
- DO NOT leave the "Do Not Disturb" on your room 24 hours a day. Nothing annoys the housekeepers more than this cause they know the room is going to be a wreck come Monday. Stow your stuff in the morning and let the maids in to do their jobs. IF you feel you need to do this, leave a BIG tip in the room when you check out.
- Leaving some returnables in the room when you check out it okay. Leaving CASES of empties is bad. If you make a major mess, clean most of it up yourself.
- If someone makes a major mess, call the front desk and let them come clean it up. They really would rather get it cleaned up while its "Fresh" than wait two days for it to set.
- As others have said, don't tape ANYTHING up in your room, not on the walls, the mirrors, the ceiling.
- DO NOT hang or tie ANYTHING to anything that isn't designated a hang point in your room. This includes the sprinkler heads, the light figures, the smoke detectors. More damage is done to rooms by people hanging or tying things to the room.
- Again, let me repeat, LET HOUSEKEEPING CLEAN YOUR ROOM!
- It is perfectly okay to set, NEATLY, trash outside your door at night. Don't do it during the day, or during the high traffic times at night. As you're crashing for the night, NEATLY set boxes and empties and such out in the hall.
- BE NICE to the hotel staff. They are working hours you won't want to work to ensure you are having a comfortable and safe place to enjoy your convention. Say 'Hello'. Smile. If they ask you something, answer politely. Co-operate with your hotel staff. They are basically an extension of the convention staff. These are people who enjoy their jobs and really are there to help you out.
- When In Doubt, ASK. If you have some questions, ask one of the hotel staff.
- Remember that the hotel staff is going to be accepting of you and the convention, but don't expect them to understand the subtle inner working of your world. They aren't the enemy but they also aren't fans. Be polite. They really are friendly.
- The best rule of thumb is treat your hotel room as if its in the house of someone you respect. If you wouldn't do it in that home, don't do it in the hotel.
- You are a guest of the hotel, act like one.
- It is VERY important to confirm and double-check your reservation well in advance of the convention. Then do it again a couple of weeks out. When you check in, CAREFULLY look over the paperwork. Make sure it is what you want before completely the checking in process. IF you have any special requests, the sooner you let the hotel know, the better your chances of getting them fulfilled. If it isn't instantly fulfilled, calmly re-ask.
- The hotel really does want to make your stay as comfortable as possible, but it is important to politely make your desires known. Also understand that not all special requests are possible.
- If you need extra pillows or towels or such, ask for them right away, at check in, or as soon as you hit the room, call down for them. Do Not be surprised if your call down at bedtime for an extra pillow on Saturday night and be told there aren't any extras available. Understand that the hotel does not have unlimited resources. They only have so many extra pillows or towels or roll aways.
The Secret to having a smooth hotel stay is to follow the rules and communication. Make sure the hotel understands your needs and keep your requests REASONABLE. And equally understand what the hotel needs from you and be REASONABLE in accommodating their requests of you.
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David M Stein, DI
"Not Unlike the Toaster, I Control the Darkness"
-- Abby Normal, "You Suck"
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I often do not see such a note about housekeeping or where to get towels. I prefer to leave a little note with the word "HOUSEKEEPER" on it and a friendly smileyface, along with a dollar for each person in the room (or two if the housekeeper seems really attentive or cool). This is done every morning.
Once in a while the housekeeper will leave a thank-you note, or draw little pictures of her own. It's quite cute!
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permalinkLocation: Elmer, NJ
You know, I'm ashamed to admit, but in all the years I've been attending AC I've always tipped the porters and restaurant staff well, but never the housekeeper.
That will change this year.
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permalinkI feel the need to inquire why it's taboo to leave the 'do not disturb' sign on the door the whole time, with the intent of cleaning your own mess, as well as, of coarse, not subjecting the hotel staff to certain 'mature' artwork that had been left out on a bed/desk/etc (the latter being my primary concern)
Not trying to second guess anyone, just trying to become enlightened
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permalinkA) The Do Not Disturb doesn't mean the room will be CLEAN. Did you pack disinfectants, cleaning solutions, etc? (If you do, you are strange.) The room will be passable, at best, by the cleaning staff.
They have no way of checking daily to make sure no disaster has befallen until CHECKOUT if they can't just peek in daily and ensure that nobody's blown holes in the wall, ripped down the fire-sprinklers, or any other uncommon-but-still-happens disaster.
B) Leaving it up FOREVER generally means-for them-that they will have ONE HUGE LENGTHY cleanup at the end of your stay, and THAT really throws them off their schedule. They allot time for each floor every day. If you need a team with scrubbing bubbles for 1/2 an hour to an hour at the end, it throws off their schedule for that floor. If 3 of you do that on that floor, it throws off their schedule for that SHIFT. If a bunch of people across one convention do that and check out in the same day, it seriously delays the amount of time before that room is considered sanitary and ready for the next person. This is due to standards REPUTABLE hotels need to maintain, and go beyond what you're used to at home.
C) If you want to screen your "mature" artwork, you can close it in a book, put it in the closet, or other step. You had a measure in mind for packing it, this is another use for it. Pretty much anything you pack, even lightly, will be moved aside if need be, but otherwise ignored. (Unless the particular staff-member dares to steal- which means you report this to the hotel and the entire staff gets in trouble, and they probably find who did it.) If you care about your art, you'll take a few seconds to protect it from the elements, spills, and so on-those measures are more than
enough to hide it from staff.
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permalinkOk, thanx, i was just curious
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permalinkOh, one last note about this, If you think you're going to leave anything sitting out in your hotel room that's going to, in any way, shock a seasoned housekeeper, you are mistaken.
These woman have seen it all and can tell tales that might even make YOU blanch.
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David M Stein, DI
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-- Abby Normal, "You Suck"
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Oh, I don't know about that. I still remember when Torrle brought his giant plush paw to the convention and left it sitting on his bed. The look on that nice lady's face as she was describing it to the other housekeeper was priceless.
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permalinkWell she obviously wasn't seasoned enough.
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David M Stein, DI
"Not Unlike the Toaster, I Control the Darkness"
-- Abby Normal, "You Suck"
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permalinkLocation: Philadelphia area, PA
Perhaps we should have tipped her with nutmeg?
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permalinkAlways rememeber, when seasoning hotel staff, you want to make sure you give them a dry rub.
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permalinkLocation: Alberta, Canada
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The room was meant for only two
It now held 10 or more
So much for a soft comfy bed
I'm stuck down on the floor!
The cleaning maids look on with horror
They can't believe their eyes!
One of them said "Oh my God"
The other broke down and cried!
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lol, that first bit about the cleaning solutions reminded me of Monk. I now have a strong urge to borrow a fursuit and dress up like monk in it.
CJ
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permalinkI've always looked at the fandom and the actions of a certain demographic within it and thought to myself "Since when does being furry have anything to do with being a slob?"
I see some furs who take the easy way out kind of attitude to excuse their behaviour with "...hey, I'm a fur. Tee hee *gigglesnort*" when asked simply why they do A, B and C.
All of the demographic of furs who have this mindset need to realize that the saying "The actions of the few speak for the many" holds true for us in everything we do that relates to others outside of our happy little grapevine community and realize that what we do and how we present ourselves to the non fur part of population reflects positively or negatively on other people and as a result, the negative stuff does a great dis service to the furs you do and don't know, and also to yourself.
As a fellow fur, I'd really like to put in my request for everyone to keep their room up to snuff. You don't have to polish every air mollecule and put it back to where you found it, but at least try to be descent about it.
Just look at it this way. Every time you leave a convention with a big mess behind and a lack of caring to clean any of it up, it reflects badly on _everyone_, even the ones who do clean their rooms up. It's as if a fursuiter ran out into a busy intersection and started a brawl just outside of the hotel. Even though you might not know that furry, it really doesn't matter because it's as if you were the one who ran out into that intersection to start that brawl instead.
If that doesn't help, then think of it this way:
There's only _one_ Anthrocon and there are only so many hotels left in PA
So yeah, respect your room!
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Yeah, we might end up in Erie's new convention center...
Ron
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permalinkCorrected for accuracy. =P
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permalinkLocation: San Antonio, TX
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"I would really, really hate to have to have such an uncomfortable chat with any of our cherished attendees."
Uncomfortable chat indeed. I've seen Kage angry like, twice. He's the type that you shut up and listen when he's angry though.
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Let us just say that I take after my mother.
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permalinkOH MY GOD RUN!!!!!!!!!!!
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BAH, dont let him fool you, His mom is MUCH cooler than he is.

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permalinkLocation: Northern VA
Got the chance to hang out with her at FurFright, She is an awesome lady.
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permalinklet me add kage, the hotel i work at if rooms are left excessively dirty you can sometimes be charged a fee and are usually talked badly about among the hotel staff long after you are gone.
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permalinkAs someone who works in many hotel positions I have a couple things to reinforce and to add.
When you leave your room move everything off your bed into either the closet, the drawers, or your luggage because most hotels do not allow there housekeepers to move personal objects off beds as they don't want to be blamed if you think something went missing.
Furry con goers usually come with allot of cash. Ask the front desk if they have a lock box. Lock it up there because if you say you left allot of money in your room and it's missing they aren't reimbursing you pretty much all the time. So protect yourself and lock the cash up.
There are more people in the hotel then just you. If something doesn't happen two seconds after you request it don't worry allot of hotel chains try to get things to you within 15 minuets. Also don't take all the pool towels at the pool, ask for an excessive amount of extra pillows or anything else that is a limited resource for the hotel.
If it is a non smoking room do not smoke in it, especially weed (that should be a given but it's ussualy harder to get out then normal cigarette smoke smell). A weekend of smoking in a room can take over a week and a couple hundred dollars to clean so that it is once again non smoking. All hotels will also charge you for this expense.
Definitely do not hang anything on the sprinkler heads, breaking one will either flood your room and the rooms below you or you'll ruin any fursuits with the fire suppressant foam that some sprinkler heads use.
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permalinki want to be the first to thank yall for the wonderful advice, i have an almost-phobia of offending waitstaff/help staff/service persons/ whatever they're called (btw, what is the proper term?)
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On another note....
Many of the actions of the veteren attendee will also be looked upon my many of the first time attendees, like myself. I believe in the adage, "You only get one chance to make a first impression!"
Not only does this reflect well with Hotel Staff and Magement, it also puts "The Community" in a favourable light, and goodness knows how many "humans" out there want to belittle us for who we are, and how we live our lives.
I am looking for this convention to be a life changing experience for me, as I am sure are other furs. Uncle Kage (I hope I do get to meet you at some point during the convention.
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In closing, I place many of my experiences on how well I get received, and this is ESPECIALLY true at Anthrocon. If I have a favourable experience this year, I can tell Uncle Kage what all his hard work and effort was well worth it, because I would also be attending AC08, hopefully also at the Westin.
Many Thanks,
Rukario
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Just look for the old guy with the lab coat, the radio permanently welded to his hand, and the vacant expression.
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permalinkAnd I believe I have a picture of Kage sitting in the lobby trying to talk on two cell phones at once. THAT was an interesting sight.
Which just begs the joke, "How does a Kage with a cell phone in each hand properly consume his Sake?"
Any takers on some clever punchlines? (And by "punchline", I do not mean for Kage to punch me for the joke
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Yet another reason for the choice of a cockroach as my "fursona:" The desire to have four hands.
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permalinkLocation: Montreal , Quebec , Canada
hehe
Well .. having worked into a restaurant's kitchen for a while
I witnessed stuff I didn't think would be possible to do with only two hands..
Like holding three plates drinks and side dishes all at once..
.. so two cellphones and a glass pfft
But I agree kage 's job must be extenuating!
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except for the people I don't like..
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You don't see the IV drip we installed for him in '04. The Lab coat camoflagues it neatly.
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permalinkLocation: Roseville, CA, USA
The Proper Way, of course - one bowl at a time.
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well alas, you're kite popular Mr.Kage. I tried that 2 consecutive times ( one in the morning, near the lobby )
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and other same lobby but at night, and you were always surrounded by people ( and getting hugs every 5 minutes from fursuiters
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permalinkLocation: Philadelphia area, PA
Yeah, the hugs are a particularly trying part of his ministry. How awful, to be hugged over and over by cute fuzzy things... ;=8)
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